Bluegrass_Addict
bruhbeans Agreed. Doesn't Android 16 already have the ability to "run Linux as an app?" Even on Android 15 and earlier people do this using @
termux, proot, etc.
The dodgy surveillance OSes, Google Android and #Microslop Windows, get installed on the device, while the trustworthy OS, Debian #GNULinux, gets installed as a constrained and restricted app?
If a phone still works fine, it’s not “device hoarding” to keep using it. It’s common sense.
Screenshot of a CNBC headline that reads: “How device hoarding by Americans is costing economy.” The subtext says Americans are holding onto devices longer than ever, which may be smart for consumers but can reduce productivity.
If we look at what #Mastodon did to #ActivityPub, we start to realize that #XMPP not having a client and server from a single vendor that is available on all platforms is indeed a strength, not a weakness.
@kolev
@daniel I love #XMPP but not having a single cross-platform fully-featured client makes onboarding normies much more difficult, hindering adoption greatly.
Nothing wrong with being the #Ubuntu or #LinuxMint of decentralised #FOSS messengers... people who need the Archlinuxes and BSDs will find them in time.
I have managed to onboard lots of people to cross-platform messengers like #DeltaChat, #ElementMessenger and #SignalApp, but not a single person to XMPP. Cross platform apps also make switching OSes eaiser, e.g. migrating from Windows to Linux, or Android to LinuxMobile.
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There is a person on the left saying, "No! I will not switch to Linux", with knives coming out of their mouth.
On the right is another person getting hit with said knives, with Tux, the mascot of Linux, being hit specifically on their chest; they are also bleeding from where the knives hit.
I'm in the market for a new phone, and I'd like it to be Linux. As I've been building a table of options, I thought I'd share it. It's a wide table; sorry about that. ...
Sxan I'm not in the US, but #Librem5 works with carrier T-Mobile and Purism's Awesim according to their wiki and forums.
I'm daily driving Librem 5 with #postmarketOS (stable - phosh) and everything critical for my use case works: VoLTE calls and SMS (although I avoid both now since #SaltTyphoon), 4G data, Wi-Fi, basic camera, GPS navigation using #PureMaps, latest apps from #Flathub, web browsing using Firefox-ESR, e2ee messaging and calling using Signal Desktop, DeltaChat, Matrix, XMPP, etc. and of course my most used feature, the headphone jack!
What does not work is recording sound in videos, although recording sound itself using Sound Recorder works, just not in videos.
Correctin: Recording sound in videos does work on L5 both on pmOS and PureOS.
Sxan Based on a recent forum post by @jc, their #LibertyPhone production run should also be complete in December. Actually screen repacement cost is how I came to L5. A previous Pixel 6 Pro device's screen replacement cost was so high that it made more sense to pay $20-50 more and buy a brand new 6A. Now I'm seeing that Librem 5 screen cost 1/8th of the product price and roughly 1/5th of the Pixel 6 Pro screen replacement cost!
I'm daily driving a #Librem5 with #postmarketOS and most important things work OK despite the modest specs. I especially appreciate the removable user-replaceable battery and general modularity. However, the feature I use most (more than calls and messages even) is... the #HeadphoneJack!
Fizz
oxysis Agreed, after #SaltTyphoon, no one should be using legacy unencrypted calls and SMS for personal communication. A data-only SIM with instant messaging apps for calls and messages can work in 2025.
Ilovethebomb
Fizz Depends on your circle but in my experience, these are the same people who completely locked into WhatsApp, Facebook, Gmail, etc and only use SMS/calls when you don't answer their WA messages : )
Auli
jcs I'm daily driving a #Librem5 with #postmarketOS and everything really important works for my use case, including legacy unencrypted phone calls (VoLTE), SMS messages, 4G data, Wi-Fi, web browsing, email, #e2ee comms with #SignalApp, #DeltaChat, #Matrix, #XMPP, latest apps from #Flathub, etc.
Sure it's nowhere as fast as mainstream Android phones and has only basic camera support, but then those aren't my priorities when looking at #freedomtech.
SanctimoniousApe
cm0002 I need a head phone jack too, but I guess using a USB-C to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter is way cheaper and simpler than engineering a brand new Linux phone that caters exactly to everyone's preferences : )
SanctimoniousApe Yes, I think the previous one may have been a Gigaset #GX6. That could be a good thing comparedto engineering a phone like Purism, Pine64, etc. It's just going top to bottom, rather than the reverse, so normie-users get stuff working out of the box and can daily drive it.
I don't think #FuriLabs are opposed to engineering a phone with mainline kernel support, but who is going to finance that? Certainly not enough users willing to pay for the purist approach - which I support BTW as #Librem5 / #postmarketOS user. So their approach does make sense with very limited money, time and support.
I like what Graphene is doing for security but instead of giving $$$ to Google in order to have #degoogled, I'd rather invest in improving #LinuxMobile which is a pro-freedom solution from the get-go and is not held hostage by a hostile codebase.
Perhaps this analogy will be correct: It's like moving into a less than ideal house that you can own forever versus moving into something that looks more like your dreamhouse that you don't really own.
@fdroidorg I've helped someone set up F-Droid Basic on their still Googled device. Do you know why the "manage app" setting is greyed out in Android? Does that mean that Android will forcefully remove #FDroid's permissions if not opened in a while?
Also, fully automatic update installation does not appear to be working? I think it used to work in the past...?
@fdroidorg It's a Pixel with stock ROM, not my own. Yes battery optimisation is turned off, and the app is even opened occasionally. There were about a dozen updates. I did not install; check manually a few days later if auto-update worked, and it hadn't. Even turned on update on data!
The battery permission is what I was worried Google would just forcefully reset.
@postmarketOS I learnt about #postmarketOS way before my first #Linuxphone. Basically found #AlpineLinux while researching super-lightweight minimal (non-rolling-release) OSes, then tried to find a distro based on it and found pmOS! Now daily driving both.
@itsfoss Thanks for covering this. I'd like to suggest doing a write-up on #URnetwork, an #OpenSource decentralized VPN. Android client available on #Fdroid.
drew_belloc
noodlejetski I don't have a dock either. I do have a favourites row though, and currently these are the pinned apps (arranged in no particular order):
@itsfoss I'm not sure about other countries but #Dell AU/NZ customer support is apparently happy with installing Linux on any laptop before shipping it if you arrange in advance, according to what they told me.
I’m writing my PhD and sometimes feel like I’m losing my mind trying to balance home and work tasks, thesis tasks, personal and household habits, and potential connecting these to notes. I really struggle if everything isn’t in one place I can’t keep track of it. ...
After the last update, the Signal "desktop app" is requiring us to launch the mobile app - however, many of us do not have the Android or any other "mobile" version of the Signal app any more.
We are a large (by our standards) group of #Linux phone users, and your "desktop" app is our "mobile" app : )
Our previous phones on which #SignalApp was initially activated was an Android or Apple device and we have since then completely migrated to #Linuxphones. Some of us may have registered Signal on #signalcli, Flare, #Molly, Signal Android in #WayDroid, etc.
The #mobileLinux community is growing - we have members spanning a good number of projects and devices, e.g.
@itsfoss Depends on the device age and specs. Probably #Fedora on new, decent systems and #AlpineLinux on older, weak systems. In my tests, Gnome usually takes only around 1.1 GB on it!!!
@itsfoss Does make sense in a way...
@brave is the only cross-platform #FOSS browser that comes with an #adblocker and non-Big Tech search engine out of the box. Defaults matter,
@mozillaofficial : ) I still support the your good stuff, btw.
Hopefully, #Midori by
@astian can be the second one especially as it's not based on Chromium.
The VPN service that will be integrated into the Midori browser has been updated, in the next few hours the first 20 servers in multiple locations will be available.
Germany, USA, Mexico, Brazil, Iceland, Japan and much more.
This smartphone runs Android, Linux, and even Windows 11 ( www.androidauthority.com )
SoTU: Linux phones available for the US
I'm in the market for a new phone, and I'd like it to be Linux. As I've been building a table of options, I thought I'd share it. It's a wide table; sorry about that. ...
What actively maintained main daily driver options do we even have nowadays?
cross-posted from: ...
Google is Killing Open Source Android Apps (Here's Why) ( techlore.tv )
Hail Corporate!
I respect people's right to use apple products, but please stop asserting "privacy", big corps doesn't give a shit.
FLX1S is a new Linux phone that's... mostly a downgrade from the FLX1 - Liliputing ( liliputing.com )
What are the "app dock" apps on your phone? Are they FOSS?
Go to your phone homescreen and look at the app dock (the bottom row that contains some apps and stays the same when you switch pages). ...
What FOSS applications do you use for habits, tasks, and notes?
I’m writing my PhD and sometimes feel like I’m losing my mind trying to balance home and work tasks, thesis tasks, personal and household habits, and potential connecting these to notes. I really struggle if everything isn’t in one place I can’t keep track of it. ...
Using NoScript to selectively block JavaScript across all websites has opened my eyes to the sewers we wade through online
This comment encouraging me to try out NoScript Security Suite (Firefox) changed my life. googletagmanager is used everywhere!