Lol the FBI is worried that people might leak shit they’re doing, so they gotta scare off Anonymous.
Probably trying to find a way to sue 4chan.
And certain accounts in certain places known to be Epstein accounts are mysteriously active…
I’ve been getting the impression lately that 4chan has been a platform where the rich, or someone paid by them, uses snippets of truthful information baked into outlandish stories to obfuscate their ongoings behind a narrative of easily dismissible conspiracy. Like feeding the pigs carrots, so their shit smells of shit and carrots, and now everyone avoids carrots as a byproduct of it’s association with shit.
What are the odds this is just more of that? They may speak on Epstein’s death before it’s reported for credibility, then misuse that credibility to obfuscate the truth further. The FBI could have been in the dark, hence their investigation, but they could have also been steered away from making any conclusions on the matter.
Ghislaine Maxwell was a /pol/ mod. That’s all I need to know.
Why do you think Elmo bought Twitter…
The newly released Epstein files show that the Justice Department tried to identify the 4Chan user behind the posts — but couldn’t figure it out.
“Good luck, I’m behind 7 proxies.”
classic
Reminder that the Sarah Palin hacker was caught because they included the web proxy url in their screenshots they shared.
Edit: it was 16 years ago so here’s the Wikipedia article for additional context.
I backtraced it!
Wow a 4chan user has a job.
Epstein probably posted it himself
Dont know of i remember this right. But didnt the FBI have the statement on his death written the day before or something?
The memo reharding his death was dated the day before. Whether that means they wrote it before or it was just misdated, who knows?
In https://lemmy.world/c/Epsteinfiles from 17 days ago:
https://lemmy.world/post/42921222?scrollToComments=true
There were two IP’s associated with these comments.
107.77.223.177
and
172.58.139.162
One IP was responsible for all of the comments regarding medical information (which can be confirmed in part by the autopsy, also available unredacted (mostly) in the files(.
I tried to follow up on the FBI effort to get the cell data for both of these. As far as I can tell, the rPtND1Si post resolved to a new jersey IP (this is the AT&T customer), and the second resolved to a sprint customer (swam8WIF). If you look up the second IP, it resolved to the Chicago area (the sprint customer). The sprint response to the FBI record request stated that their system used “dynamic IP”. Its not clear to me the FBI followed up on the sprint customer any further. My read was they couldnt get a location from that IP because of sprints internal system.
See here: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00133349.pdf for the original data.
Sounds like Epstein got the confidential-informant-who-gets-a-fake-identity treatment. From the sounds of the rumors, it wouldn’t be the FBI either. Given it involves international parties, it would probably involve the CIA and Epstein would literally be protected by the Intelligence Identities Protection Act if his new identity were to be revealed, and at the highest classification of secrecy, so nobody involved in the operation probably even knows who they are providing support to.
Well 4chan had some deep ties with epstein. Epstein knew the founder and even got him to make a channel
Yeah I don’t think this is necessarily related. At least one of the two sets of claims looks credible, came from a New Jersey IP, and are connected with someone who worked at the facility.
I thought he got him to re-open a closed channel (/pol/)
Timelines seem to suggest so. But he commented to the verge and denied it.
Also, fuck 4chan. To be clear.
On one hand I’m happy this fuck is dead, and I hope he did suffer.
On the other hand, we all know he did not commit suicide and got killed by the Pedoresident following the playbook of his BFF putin to try to save his fat orange pedo ass
I hate when characters are killed off screen
There’s still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that’s who and when it would be done. I’m not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I’ve got no reason to think that it’s not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.
Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein’s Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.
This was a hoax, look it up.
Epstein’s Fortnite account
I hate this timeline so much
Is there any reason to believe it wasn’t hacked? If I’m murdered then my account being accessed doesn’t prove I’m secretly alive. Especially if I used insecure passwords like Epstein is reported to have done.
It’s not impossible, but if he was still alive I find it hard to believe he’d just access it once and never again. Stupid billionaires with bad passwords probably happens all the time and we just don’t know about it because they’re not at the center of an international child sex exploitation crime ring.
Trump’s Twitter password was maga or something like that. After it got hacked I’m pretty sure it was maga2020 when it got hacked again
So I guess it’s maga2028 now?
I would bet a handler was checking the device and fucked up.
and played a few ranked rocket league games for fun while they were at it
Then got pissed at the smerfs and killed himself
Their FedEx account was in use until 2024.
https://www.ontheditch.com/gained-access-to-epsteins-fedex-account/
That someone was exposed as a teenage “hacker”.
I used quotes because it was more social engineering and lying than any sort of hack.
“hacker”… According to Epic, someone changed their handle to Epstein’s handle that was exposed in the files. There was no hacking involved.
I would absolutely believe it that he was walked out and flown to Israel where he lives as a hero of the pedo-genocide state, but his brother who identified his body is vocal about evidence it wasn’t a suicide. I’m not sure what incentive he’d have to both lie about identifying his brother’s body and making so much noise about it being a murder…
I’ve been hearing that the “changed handle” thing isn’t valid, because when an account handle is changed you can still see the original on the user’s profile (and that wasn’t the case for the littlestjeff account). With all the misinformation flying around, I have no idea about the accuracy of this though.
Yeah, it seems implausible to me that such a gaping security hole would be in a hugely popular game that long, but I guess that’s also not impossible. Stupider things have happened.
I’m not sure what incentive he’d have to both lie about identifying his brother’s body and making so much noise about it being a murder…
Remember that he was deeply involved in Epstein’s businesses, including holding the position of president over the J Epstein & Co investment firm.
I read somewhere that it was somebody else who changed their username to match his, and not the same account. Can’t find a source for it either way though.
If I had that much money I know I would have a “Hail Mary” boobytrap that released a bunch of incriminating evidence in case of my death.
That might be Ghislaine’s job.
Imagine if he’d been one of the state of the union guests.
Trump pulls off his face, gasp it was Epstein all along
Like when Andy Kaufman did an entire show at the Apollo with ‘his grandmother’ rocking back and forth in a chair off to one side, only to pull off the wig and it was Robin Williams (in his quietest role ever) all along?
Man comedy has gone so downhill.
Like there were the greats… Abbott, Costello…Kaufman, Belushi.
Millennials got fucked again. Foxworthy. Dunham. Cable Guy. Eddie Murphy’s later years. What have you done for me lately, Eddie?
We could’ve kept Chris Farley, but he had to die. And without him, David Spade is worthless.
Not impossible, but I don’t see what advantage there would be to keeping him alive vs just getting rid of him entirely.
A simple trade, destruction of evidence in exchange for his life. Mind you I’d still kill him regardless but I also wouldn’t make any deal with slime like that to begin with.
I’m guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.
That would make sense if he wasn’t arrested, convicted, interrogated and with a mountain of evidence in the hands of the FBI. A dead drop isn’t going to keep you alive if the person who wants you silenced thinks you’re already spilling the beans.
But even if that’s the case he’s alive until he clears the dead drop because he’d still be a loose end.
That too. Really it would depend how stupid he and his handlers were/are, I can’t really make any statements on stupid or smart rich assholes are though since I come from a place of assuming everyone of these profligates are universally just above braindead.
It makes keeping him alive, a matter of national security.
Who knows.
Like someone else said there might have been a dead man’s switch ready to release all the kompromat.
Death is obviously very final, if he’s stashed somewhere then you could wheel him out to testify although I can’t really think of a circumstance where that would be advantageous.
I tend to think murder is the far simpler objective and therefore the most likely.
Does it still count as suicide if they hand you the rope and tell you this is the easy way out and if you don’t play ball they’ll make sure it’s painful?
The only threat they needed to make was a return to general population.
I seem to remember him being attacked by another inmate. Instead of being put into protective custody he was put on suicide watch, which is its own kind of hell.
So, he changed his will to fuck over his victims, and is suddenly pulled off suicide watch.
The only two people needed to then make sure Epstein was dead would be the warden probably Epstein’s own lawyer. Maybe the psychiatrist who signed off on the removal from suicide watch… But the suicide watch wasn’t initially justified, so pulling Epstein off it wouldn’t seem strange.
Hell, if you were a clever, high placed official in the DOJ, an example being Bill Barr, you could simply tell the warden to “put some pressure on the pedo” and then use the lawyer to deliver the real message of “kill yourself before we put you into the general population”.
Then you get a dead loose end and no record of illegal activity inside the prison. Also you only have to buy off a single person who likely already has questionable morals.
Sorry dude but he’s not dead. You have to look at the evidence beyond a headline but it isn’t some strechy conspiracy at this point. None of the photos of him dead look dead, morticians have weighed in on that pretty decisively. He didn’t just have his xbox account go active after he had a fedex account and some other thing like streaming or an e-mail im not finding confirmations on. Then there’s the 2 guards who found him, read those interviews, again, doesn’t seem dead. Then there’s the notes in his cell with what seems like an escape plan that is for some reason partially redacted. And it goes on…
Fun spin to put on “Epstein didn’t kill himself” but also, you know, come on.
Yes. Come on. Read. Watch. Investigate.
Did you look up anything I just typed or oh, no, you just hit reply and assumed you already know everything you need to? Don’t fret, I’ll edit in links after lunch for the lazy.
Guard statments (you can read these elsewhere I’m in a hurry)
Fortnite was another player changing their name according to Epic but no comment on the redacted vbucks purchase in the files.
“None of the photos of him dead look dead” isn’t a great choice as your very first point if you’re trying to make a compelling argument.
I have added links. I’ll add the other online account if I find it.
Who benefits from him being alive? His assets were seized so it’s not like he could plan his own escape. The evidence was also already seized so it’s not like he could keep evidence hidden. Most of his contact would be gone on the account him supposed to be dead. What would make him so important to keep him alive? It’s not to make sure he can’t testify because dead men also don’t testify. So what would be the reason for keeping him alive and out of prison?
Simple. It’s what Ghislaine wants and she holds all the blackmail in the world(almost literally). Jeffrey is hers, she gets what she wants.
Yeah it’s pain in the ass and overcomplicated but if this is an ongoing CIA Mossad operation it’s not really weird. The FBI has 14+TB of video footage logged in evidence. Imagine how much power Maxwell really weilds if she’s backed by Mossad
What’s keeping Ghislaine in a vacation prison where she gets her own dog, and the warden her bitch? What’s keeping all the American billionaires in the Epstein Files free from accountability? Stop trying to make sense of a world that has none.
Lol “and it goes on…”
Bank account, another online account I’m looking for the link to. I edited in links to the rest. Probably more in a few days which is what i mean by goes on…
Also 4chan and a dynamic IP stopping the FBI dead lol
The user also provided some of the earliest unproven conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death. In one post, which was later deleted but provided to the FBI in response to the subpoena, the user said someone may have swapped out Epstein’s body because of a mysterious van seen the previous night, DOJ records show. “You guys i am shaking right now but i think they switched him out,” the anonymous poster said.
Damn
Yeah there’s also a theory that Ghislaine is out free, someone saw her in Quebec
Also someone logged into one of JE’s gaming accounts from Israel like a month ago
My bet is he is being sheltered by Israel, and Ghislaine is headed there too
Edit- I should have said someone SUPPOSEDLY saw her, that’s on me
There are 8 BILLION people on this planet. The chances of a Ghislane doppelganger roaming around is not as low as one might think.
She looks a lot like my stepmom
It’s gotta be at least lower then her changing the shape of her ears and chin.
The ghislaine video was proven to be a faceswap.
This one?
Not saying it’s definitive or that it’s NOT a face swap but dang that’s a wild video
Yup! Definitely that one. Showtoolsai has a video explaining the tells on it.
Here’s the instagram link, he hasn’t put it up on YouTube yet: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/
Proven by whom? How do you even prove such a thing?
Here’s one showtoolsai posted on instagram, its not up on his YouTube yet but he does this for a living and is a great resource for learning AI red flags.
Image analysis. When a video is modified it is often pretty simple to tell if there are inconsistencies from an image captured under real world conditions using a camera lense.
It’s pretty simple to trick the human eye these days. But it’s significantly more difficult to modify a real world videos and perform “in-painting” (the more general term for a face swap) without obvious inconsistencies appearing.
It’s significantly easier to detect these inconsistencies than it is to perform in-painting that doesn’t have these inconsistencies.
It’s not 100% deterministic. But it is enough to conclude that it is more likely than not a digitally modified image/video.
Video is MUCH easier to conclude as fake or real too. Because, unlike an image, the in-painting needs to not only work consistently to real world conditions and match the surroundings throughout, but it also has to match seemlessly and naturally to every single frame one after another.
The specific techniques are usually dependent on the video. But sometimes something as simple as increasing the contrast on an image can really expose that the pixels of an in-painted portion are not behaving how the surrounding pixels are.
If you’re interested I found a journal paper that goes over it. Haven’t read it myself. But will likely after this comment. But just looking at the images in it can give you an idea of what the image analysis would be looking at.
https://www.mdpi.com/2313-433X/10/2/42
Edit: I know nothing about the Maxwell video in question. This is just an answer on “how” people can determine if a video or image has been modified.
Not sayin I believe it
The gaming account was someone who changed its username and then got banned.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that was found out. But I am not comfortable just believing something like that. I don’t think that’s healthy.
It’s not a comfortable thing to think about, that’s for sure
The longer this goes on the weirder it gets.
A death reported before it happened?
Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld?
Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents?
I’ve always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged.Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assume it’s all ai, but… I don’t know what to think anymore. Trump and his friends are just so evil. All I can think about is what the nazi concentration camp people did. torture twins, make lampshades out of human skin.
I grew up in a rural town where nothing ever happened and nobody locked their door. This is all so wrong.
I’m in that rural neighborhood that never locks their doors. “Unsolved” hit and runs and “unsolved” shootings, and “unsolved” bodies being found by “hunters” are increasing. Btw a group of armed robbers recently sued – and won! a supposedly US government protected national entity because the armed security personnel used their weapon to hold the robbers in place while they called 911. So that’s what happens to good guys with guns, they get fired for never firing a shot and calling the police on criminals.
Fwiw, I am not suicidal. I have family I love and would never leave in guilt, shame, and despair.
Btw a group of armed robbers recently sued – and won! a supposedly US government protected national entity because the armed security personnel used their weapon to hold the robbers in place while they called 911.
That’s crazy. What was the lie they came up with? That they were not robbers and were forcefully held? Wouldn’t trespassing work in favor of the security personnel?
Note this was a _civil_to trial, requiring only “preponderance of evidence,” so 50.5% beyond reasonable doubt. Their criminal trial is pending.
https://legalinsights.us/assault-with-a-deadly-weapon-charges-penalties-and-defenses/
For a conviction of assault with a deadly weapon, the prosecution must prove specific elements beyond a reasonable doubt. First, it must establish that the accused committed an act constituting an assault. An assault is generally defined as an intentional act that causes another person to reasonably apprehend imminent harmful or offensive contact. The action must be deliberate, not accidental.
https://thegunzone.com/is-pointing-and-presenting-a-firearm-a-felony/
H3 7. What is ‘aggravated assault’ with a firearm? How does it differ from simple assault? ‘Aggravated assault’ with a firearm typically involves pointing a firearm with the intent to cause serious bodily harm or placing the victim in imminent fear of serious bodily harm.
But tbh, the magistrates, judges, prosecutors and defense lawyers are ask in the same pockets. Those who pay their bills on time and practice omerta skate.
Again, I am not suicidal and have loved ones is never stick with shame, guilt, unanswered questions. Again, “unsolved” hit and runs and shootings, and oh forgot to mention, drug overdose is prevelant here. If I happen to pass away by any of these ways, gas chromatography hair follicle tests should be done, and device records subpoenaed, and my family members should file lawsuits against my county and state.
Eta forced/coerced trafficking of adults and minors is also a big money maker here, and those respected and not so much are involved in it together.
I’ve always had distain for conspiracy theories
I totally am with you. However, there is definitely quite a range in the theories. And it’s probably a bit naive to always fall for the narratives handed down by suspect elites on any given matter, some of them better known as “coincidence theories”.
Some “theories” later turned out to be true. It’s quite a distance between the findings of the Church Committee, for example, or what came out of Iran/Contra, or the Pentagon Papers, or the Panama Papers, as contrasted with rando nonsense like “Nazis built bases on the moon”.
Unfortunately, it’s hard to thread that needle I guess. People jump from the findings on Tuskagee and go feet-first into assuming Fauci did something illegal in Wuhan and/or that Covid was fake/“just a flu” and this was all a trial run/experiment to institute the New World Order and/or that mRNA vaccines were going to kill you or whatever…I mean, so many people just went buck wild during Covid.
In 2019 I graduated uni and struggled to find work for 9 months. During that time my boredom took me to the conspiracy subreddit… Most of the things on there are hilariously far fetched. But also people there were CONVINCED that Epstein wasn’t going to make it to trial. When he died (or escaped), my view on conspiracy theorists changed substantially. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised to find out 9/11 was planned, in all honestly.
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised to find out 9/11 was planned, in all honestly.
Bin Laden didn’t blow up the projects
Not planned by americans. They just let it happen. It’s easier to hide behind “beuracratic incompetence” than actually killing thousands of people without having any whistleblowers.
Fair enough.
It’s crazy that Epstein is easy to include in 9/11 conspiracies now too, considering his link to Lutnick (too lazy to spell check his name), who didn’t go into work on 9/11 when like 600 of his employees died. Not to mention Epstein’s ties to royals, presidents, and allegedly the Mossad. The who thing is so fertile for conspiracy theories that it basically grows itself.
Allegedly? His GF and child sex industry recruiter/groomer was the daughter of “alleged” Mossad.
Well I mean someone planned 9/11. OBL.
I will admit, I didn’t realize that all the elites of the world got together to fuck children together. Once that’s on the table, some of the theories that only involve collaboration of a few people you wouldn’t expect to be in the same room start looking more possible.
Like how in the hell would… (random people) Netanyahu and the President of Ford and the preeminent researcher of quantum computing ever get together to (random theory) build Jewish space lasers? Oh, it was pillow talk while they were raping kids.
Like… I don’t believe in Jewish space lasers but it feels more plausible today than it did a few years ago.
Those were party balloons!
I meant by Americans, sorry 😁
With how well-connected he was, how rich he was, and the fact there was a van there the night before AND his brother hired the forensic pathologist who identified his body.
There’s no way Jeffrey is actually dead. He’s probably living it up on their island “Valhalla” raping children like always.
You want to get even weirder about conspiracies, him and thiel where looking for ways to make systems collapse as an easier way to make money and epstien’s death is triggering a lot of people to go down conspiracy rabbit holes thus weakening faith in existing power structures, if any of this is actually planned I bet his suicide faked or otherwise and the ripple effects might be
Watch Saló by Pier Paolo Passolini. Looks totally credible. If butchers in concentration camps (or IDF in Gaza) can be the summum of evil, why would the elite not be. Epstein compromised them and now, after Gaza, Trump is going to go to war with Iran because there’s a pedo video of him somewhere. I always assumed Israel was doing America’s dirty work in the middle east but it’s the other way around actually. One can only assume Israel has the same leverage over the UK. They all got compromised.
Watch Saló by Pier Paolo Passolini.
You’re not wrong, but . . . jfc that is a hard movie to watch if you have a soul.
Which is, of course, why Pasolini made it the way he did.
It’s surprisingly hard to get AI to give reasonable cannibalism recipes.
It’ll do it if you ask for human like meat as a placeholder though.
What is a “human like meat”
Long pig
Pork
This dude had to have been a /b/tard
We have it on record that Epstein and Bannon were frequenting 4chan, so I can only assume it was someone from his circles
Its not. By 2019 there were hundreds of thousands of 4chan users. There were two threads of comments the FBI considered credible. One, specifically focused on observable medical conditions and procedures related to the minutes and hour immediately around the time where Epstein’s body is allegedly discovered.
https://www.justice.gov/age-verify?destination=%2Fepstein%2Ffiles%2FDataSet+9%2FEFTA00129268.pdf
This leads to this document, “EFTA00091641.pdf”, and the MCC employee “Tova Noel”, and you’ll find this question:
Search “Verizon” and “Tova Noel”, and you can confirm they were a Verizon customer in document “EFTA00133624.pdf”, from bank records the FBI obtained. These records show the withdrawl dates on which automatic billing occurred.
Go to document “EFTA00123473.pdf” or “EFTA00125018.pdf” and you get the Verizon subpoena, although, numbers redacted, etc… etc… but its got the specific date window that matters (July 6 2019 until August 13 2019). “EFTA00133182.pdf” gets you the list of all subpoenas, and is redacted poorly enough such that we can infer which people are being targeted. Specifically, Shuliac, Noel, Thomas remain unredacted/ sloppily redacted.
I mean some of the feds participate and/or facilitate unsavory activities, and some look the other way because they are cowards.
I don’t disagree. But there is a clear chain of custody that the feds pursued and issued multiple subpoenas in an effort to figure out who made BOTH of the 4chan posts.
Do we know these chains of custody aren’t forged? Idk I’m about to sleep, sorry. I have an extremely personality disordered client who threw an entitlement tantrum today on their caregivers and family. It was wild and I am tired 😂
4chan has been at the center of this shit all along.
More so than you’d probably think. 4-chan is the vat that the current wave of fascism gestated in.
