@Gryficowa@mastodon.social avatar Gryficowa , to random Polish

Holy shit, w tym roku minie 14-ście lat od początku GF i dekada od finału :welp:

18+ @konstruct@woof.tech avatar konstruct , to random

https://stoat.chat/ Stoat is "discord but FOSS". Has apps for all platforms. Self-hostable.

https://zulip.com/ zulip is kind of like "discord but FOSS". Originally meant for work teams, it has topic-based conversation threads for asynchronous messaging. Self-hostable. Uses either jitsi meet, zoom or bigbluebutton protocols for calls (hoster's choice). Has apps for all platforms. Features: https://zulip.com/features/

https://chitchatter.im/ chitchatter is an ephemeral chat web app. It is lightweight and embeddable, doesn't require signing up, does video/audio calls and text/media chat. The web app is self-hostable. It's purely peer to peer, so it cannot store messages for asynchronous communication unless you leave the app running. You create a channel, share its URL (and password if it is private), and keep it open to catch messages sent to it.

https://docs.spacebar.chat/#what-is-spacebar Spacebar is a self-hosted alternative to discord's back-end. It aims to be a drop-in replacement that should be compatible with discord clients and bots that were only made with the discord API in mind, e.g. Dissent. It is explicitly compatible with the https://fermi.chat/ web client too, if other clients don't work as well, or hardcode discord's API, since this is still in development.

Boosts greatly encouraged, let's help people make an informed choice! :ABlobCatCozyWave:

@Gryficowa@mastodon.social avatar Gryficowa , to random Polish

Czy ktoś mi może wyjaśnić o co chodzi w tej kontrowersji z forkiverse? Bo ciągle widzę tę nazwę i coś tam mówią, ale za cholerę nie wiem co się dzieje :welp:

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@wolfwalks@app.wafrn.net avatar wolfwalks , to random

Tell me about something that you really want to talk about but no one has asked you about it yet, or knowledge you have but aren't often able to use/share

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What the fuck. What the f. Wh.

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@gedankenstuecke@scholar.social avatar gedankenstuecke , to random

«When the collapse happens, do not let a single person that waved off the economics have a moment’s peace. […] Do not let a single analyst that called AI skeptics “luddites” or equated them to flat Earthers hear the end of it.»

https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-enshittifinancial-crisis/#what-if-i%E2%80%99m-right

esaru , to Technology in LibreWolf remains AI-free!

I'm using Librewolf for everything except for what I need to be logged in. The reason is that Librewolf pretends to be in UTC timezone. This is for privacy reasons, but when I load my calendar I need to see it in my timezone. There are manuals of how to turn that off, but the changes I made following their own workaround (https://librewolf.net/docs/faq/#what-are-the-most-common-downsides-of-rfp-resist-fingerprinting) never changed that behavior.

So what I do is using Epiphany for tool sites I need to login and a correct timezone, and everything else I use Librewolf.

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@wolfwalks asked

Your little kitty icon is raising their hand, what question did they want to ask?

"me meow? mrrrrp.. mrreow :3"

-do-you-say-to-that

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When are at to the library, you are a patron, not a customer. When you are at school, you're a student, not a customer. When you get health care, you are a patient, not a customer.

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If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

https://pluralistic.net/2025/11/13/patients-not-customers/#medicine-vs-markets

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18+ pluralistic OP ,
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Once you rope a patient into this system, you can keep billing the government for them up to a total of $32,000, then you have to kick them out. Why would a patient with only six months to live survive to be kicked out? Because PE companies pay bounties to doctors to refer patients who aren't dying to hospices. 51% of patients in the PE-cornered hospices of Van Nuys are "live discharged":

https://pluralistic.net/2023/04/26/death-panels/#what-the-heck-is-going-on-with-CMS

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What To Do with the Trump-Scrubbing Sanewashers?
Not weak tea, but no tea at all: attempts to scrub chaos into “strategy” in Trumpworld are really not helpful…
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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 26th October 2025 ( awful.systems )

Want to wade into the sandy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret. ...

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My dad was a bit freaked out by a video version (We're not ready for super-intelligence)of the "AI 2027" paper, particularly finding two end scenarios a bit spooky: colossus-style cooperating AIs taking over the world, and the oligarch concentration of power one, which i think definitely echoed sci-fi he watched/read as a teen.

In case anyone else finds it useful these are the "Comments as I watch it", that I compiled for him


Before watching Video Notes:

  • AI Only channel with only 3 videos

  • Produced By "80000hours", which is an EA branch (trying to peddle to you the best way to organize 40years * 50 weeks * 40 hours [I love that they assume only 2 weeks of holidays]); which is definitely cult adjacent: https://80000hours.org/about/#what-do-we-do. Mostly appears to be attempting to steer young people to what they believe are "High impact" jobs.


Video Notes:

  • The backing paper is a bit of a joke, one "AI 2027", for reference one of the main authors is very much a "cult member", Scott Alexander Siskind, author of "Slate Star Codex" and "Astral Codex Ten".

  • Other authors include [AI Futures Project] :

    • Daniel Kokotajlo (podcast co-host of siskind, ex open-ai employee, LessWrong/EA regular)
    • Thomas Larsen (ex MIRI [Machine Intelligence Research Institute = really really culty], LessWrong/EA regular)
    • Eli Lifland (LessWrong/EA regular)
    • Romeo Dean (Astra Fellowship recipient = money for AI Safety research, definitely EA sphere)
  • A lot of fluff trying to hype up the credentials of the authors.

  • AGI does not have a bounded definition.

  • They are playing up the China angle to try and drum up jingoistic support.

  • Exaggerating Chat GPT-3 success, by merely citing "users", without mentioning actual revenue, or actual quality.

  • Quote:

    How do these things interact, well we don't know but thinking through in detail how it might go is the way to start grappling with that.

    -> I think this epitomises the biggest flaw of their movement, they believe that from "first-principles" it's possible to think hard enough (without needing to confront it to reality) and you can divine the future.

    -> You can look up "Prediction Markets", which is another of their ontological sins.

  • I will note that the prediction of "Agents" was not a hard one, since this is what all this circle wants to achieve, and as the video itself points out it's fantastically incompetent/unreliable.

  • Note: This video was made before the release of GPT-5. We don't know precisely how much more compute altogether GPT-5 truly required, but it's very incremental changes compared to GPT-4. I think this philosophy of "More training" is why OpenAI is currently trying (half-succeeding half failing) to raise Trillions of dollars to build out data-centers, my prediction is that the AI bubble bursts before these data centers come to fruition.

  • Note: The video assumes keeping models secret, but in reality OpenAI would have a very vested interest in displaying capability, even if not making a model available to the public. Also even on consumer models, OpenAI currently loses a bunch of money for every query.

  • Note: The video assumes "Singularitarianism", of ever acceleration in quality of code, and that's why they keep secret models. I think this hits a compute/energy wall in real life, even if you assume that LLMs are actually useful for making "quality" code. These ideas are not new, and these people would raise alarms about it with or without current LLM tech.

  • Specific threats of "Bio-weapon", which a priori can not really be achieved without experimentation, and while "automated" labs half exis, they still require a lot of human involvement/resources. Technically grad students could also make deadly bioweapons, but no one is being alarmist about them.

  • Note: "Agent 2" Continuous Online learning is gobbledygook, that isn't how ML, even today works. At some point there are very diminishing returns, and it's a complete waste of time/energy to continue training a specific model, a qualitative difference would be achieved with a different model. I suspect this sneakily displays "Singularitarianism" dogma.

  • Quote:

    Hack into other servers
    Install a copy of itself
    Evade detection

    -> This is just science-fiction, in the real world these models require specialized hardware to be run at any effective speed, this would be extremely unlikely to evade detection. Also this treats the model as a single entity with single goals, when in reality any time it's "run" is effectively a new instance.

  • Note: This subculture loves the concept of "science in secrecy", which features a lot in the writings of Elizer Yudkowsky. Which is cultish both in keeping their own deeds "in a veil of secrecy", and helpful here when making a prophecy/conspiracy theory, by making the claim hard to disprove specifically (it's happening in secret!)

  • Note: Even today Chain-of-thought is not that reliable at explaining why a bot gives a particular answer. It's more analog to guiding "search", rather than true thought as in humans anyway. Them using "Alien-Language" would not be that different.

  • Agent 3, magically fast-and-cheap, assuming there are now minimum energy requirements. Then you can magically run 200,000 copies of. magically equivalent to 50,000 humans sped up by 30x. (The magic is "explained" in the paper by big assumptions, and just equating essentially how fast you can talk with the quality of talking, which given the length of their typical blog posts is actually quite funny)

  • Note: "Alignment" was the core mission of MIRI/Eliezer Yudkowsky

  • Note: Equating Power and Intelligence a lot (not in this video, but in general being suspiciously racist/eugenicist about it), ignoring the material constraints of actual power [echo: Again the epitomical sin of "If you just think hard enough"]

  • Note: Also assuming that trillions of dollars of growth can actually happen, simultaneously with millions losing their jobs.

  • I am betting that the "There is another" part of the video is probably deliberately echoing Colossus.

  • The video casually assumes that the only limits to practical fusion and nanotech just intelligence (instead of potential dead-ends, actually the nanotech part is a particular fancy of theirs, you can lookup "diamondoid bacteria" on LessWrong if you want a laugh)

  • The two outcomes at the end of the video are literally robo-heaven and robo-hell, and if you just follow our teachings (in this case slow-downs on AI) you can get to robo-heaven. You will notice they don't imagine/advocate for a future with no massive AI integration into society, they want their robo-heaven.

  • Quote:

    None of the experts are disagreeing about a wild future.

    -> I would say specifically some of them are suggesting that AGI soon is implausible quite strongly. I think many would agree that right now the future looks dire with or without super-AI, or even regular AI.


Takeaway section:

Yeah this really is a cult recruitment video essentially.

@dnc@vive.im avatar dnc , to random

Firefox Sidebar Includes AI Chatbot Now

Super frustrating the AI Chatbots are infecting my Firefox browser now. It looks like malware and pretty much acts like it since it cannot be disabled from the sidebar outside of closing this window. I like vertical tabs, but they require so many other options by default. Even more frustrating that the URL goes to a chrome ...

cecilkorik , to Fuck AI in Firefox Sidebar Includes AI Chatbot Now
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