My mother has been experiencing back pain for a few months now, and insists her chiropractor is making it “tolerable.”
Whenever I plead with her to see a doctor or a physical therapist, or suggest that maybe the chiropractor is the problem she gets very upset with me. There is no convincing her of any alternative, she won’t even get a second opinion and I’m not quite sure how to help at this point.
My sister got her got her an appointment to see a massage therapist, which she went to and said nothing but good things about, but she will not budge on the chiropractor.
I dunno maybe I’ll just shut up about it, but it all just seems like quackery to me.
It’s nonsense and the outcome ranges from decent massage to life-changing injury.
What happened to Kevin Sorbo is fucked(and to other’s but this is the case I remeber)
The guy who invented it was taught by a ghost, and claimed the the first adjustment he preformed was perfect and that every subsequent adjustment preformed by anyone would decline in quality, which is not how medicine or science works
Chiro turns you into a born again Christian nut job?
He had a stroke after a chiro cracked his neck and seemingly had a personality shift after.
Forced Fettermanization, you hate to see it folks
Many such cases
holy shit, I had no idea about this.
It did to Sorbo
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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It’s a placebo. A glorified massage masquerading as medical treatment. You get a long time in a room with someone playing doctor, they spend on average 6x the amount of time per client than a real doctor. They listen to your concerns, they ‘address’ them on the spot, no pills, no needles. They spend the entire time making you feel like you are working on the issue(s) together. Many people flock to this nonsense because of how comercialized and de-humanized American medicine has become as an institution.
There is definitely something to be learned about where our medical system falls short. Granted, it falls short first and foremost in terms of being delivered to people who need it, but if we solved that problem the next one we might think about looking at is the percieved impersonality of doctors and the alienating nature of the whole medical system.
Medicine will always be like that under capitalism, because it is true: as a patient, you are a profit vector for the hospital and all the medical suppliers. It is therefore rational to treat patients as so many dollar bills flowing through the campus.
Only when medicine is not a means for profit, but instead a means for humanization itself - for reduction of suffering, either by cure or by palliation - will it be possible for the patient experience to be tolerable. Otherwise it’s about as futile as wishing for capitalist reforms to solve the labor problem in general.
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Best case scenario, it’s just massage therapy with a fancy hat on. Worst case scenario, you end up paralyzed.
PT/massage/stretching (it’s free) is how you’re actually supposed to treat this type of pain
I think people’s issue is that they hear physical “therapy” and assume that those people are only there to treat major injuries. Like all those movies where someone learns to walk again after an accident. To the average person, it sounds like going to a surgeon when you’re just complaining about a headache.
The most life changing therapy for me was Physical Therapy. For years I was going to a chiropractor for neck pain or I’d just crack my neck myself, nothing worked. Then I got into a Motorsport accident and was assigned a PT named Doug who worked with me for three months and gave me a personalized workbook to keep going at home. The neck pain was a pinched nerve in my shoulder. If I feel it getting stiff again, a few stretches and it goes away. I love you, Doug!
It’s quackery and I’ll tell you this, actual physiotherapy from medical professionals is often around the same price as chiropractic care. If you have back issues that “need a chiropractor” then what you really need is physiotherapy where they can target the areas that are giving you trouble and help you develop muscles with exercises that strengthen the back and relieve the pain. Eventually, you don’t even need the physiotherapy at all anymore. Unlike chiropractic which will expect that you will never improve and need regular care for the rest of your life.
Everyone has a sacred cow. Chiropractic is my wife’s and I can not get her to budge even though when I’ve had pain I’ve done the physiotherapy route and gotten better.
I do think one funny thing is that chiropractic claims to align the spine, decrease subluxation, but actually does the opposite. It increases subluxation. Oops.
It’s a part of the health grift scene imo.
Years ago I went to one, once. As my physical therapist actually suggested it. I had terrible back pain at the time and this person started talking about chakras and my internal organs and how something in me isn’t aligned right. Also lots of detox talk and psych talk. She manipulated my back with one of those muscle hammers and made things so much worse. I have a degree related to exercise and rehab myself and the things she said were such woowoo that I am still annoyed I spent money on it.
The anti-vax etc. stuff and drinking silver water and such venn diagram also tends to be a full circle with these people.
fuckin crazy to me medical insurance covers chiro but not dental
the american dental association is literally evil and has fought viciously to keep it this way its also why dental is not part of medicare
I’d argue that any “medical” practice whose founder claimed he learned his techniques from a ghost should probably be avoided on that basis alone.
It is, however, a legitimate if controversial strategy in Go.
What about from a Geist? Asking for a friend

What about a spectre haunting Europe?
It’s quackery.
But for some reason, in the US, it’s often covered by insurance.
They’re extremely good at lobbying
The only thing that will potentially solve physical pain like this is getting stronger. A good physical therapist will guide on how to do it properly, targeting specific muscles in a specific order for your specific symptoms. Getting massage done can be helpful for relief and getting blood flow to the areas you are working on but on its own it won’t solve the problem of being physically weak and your muscles not being able to distribute the kinetic load properly without getting injured.
look up something called “innate intelligence”, it’s the foundation of chiropracty and it should be too ridiculous even for your mom to take seriously.
or she’s got some other reason to be seeing the chiro
I just got done with months of visits to a chiropractor, shit is so fake lol. The place I was sent to is literally a patient mill to essentially defraud insurance, as far as I could tell. Except it’s not really “fraud” since this is seen as legitimate medical care. It’s plainly absurd.
Honestly can’t wait to buy an inverter table and get way more benefits than these visits ever did lol
I like to pop the fluid bubbles in my joints cos it feels good.
I would not pay some quack vast amounts of money to fuck around with my skeletal system and the parts of my body when my extremely important nerves travel to my brain.
I’ve heard that there are reasonable chiropractors but the majority of them are going to tell you you can cure ear infections by cracking your neck. There’s been a number of people who die from sessions because they stroked out from pinched/damaged arteries.
https://the-health-site.com/has-a-chiropractor-ever-killed-someone.html
even the “reasonable” ones are just glorified massage therapists, and carry the same inherent danger of forcibly fucking with your spine
you can replicate all the effective things they do by getting some hot and cold packs and learning to stretch/relax different muscles and joints



















