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  • 1h - the glucosamine and inflammatory osteoarthritis was very interesting. i.e. some people with rheumatoid arthritis see improvement when they cut wheat out of their diet… glucosamine binds to one of the wheatgerm lectins… carbohydrate binding proteins… combine glucosamine while eating wheat… so people with inflammatory joint pain due to wheat sensitivities reduce their wheat lectin absorption… and this may explain why people swear glucosamine is helping.






  • @[email protected] From a desktop I was about to get a summary that covers all the talking points I heard when I watched it. I think this is the best version.

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    Thesis

    • Bad science, corporate greed, and corrupt politics drive Australia’s chronic disease crisis.
    • Ultra-processed food production and marketing displace whole-food diets and expand obesity and type 2 diabetes.

    Ideological origins of modern diet advice

    • Ellen G. White teaches that humans should avoid “flesh meat” and adopt a plant-based diet for health and spiritual aims.
    • Sanitarium Health Food Company operates as a Seventh-day Adventist institution and funds church missions with tax-free revenue.
    • John Harvey Kellogg develops cereal-based dietary doctrine inside a Seventh-day Adventist sanitarium system.
    • Ada Celia (AKA “Lenna Frances Cooper”) co-founds the American Dietetic Association while working at a sanitarium and builds dietetics institutions that promote plant-based doctrine.
    • Dietetics professional bodies shape public beliefs and national dietary guidelines and amplify plant-based and meat-reduction messaging.

    Food-industry financing of nutrition institutions

    • Dietitians Australia (formerly the Dietitians Association of Australia) takes funding from breakfast-cereal manufacturers and later wins the 2009 tender to conduct the literature search for the Australian Dietary Guidelines.
    • The Australian Breakfast Cereal Manufacturers Forum expects Dietitians Australia to “protect” and “defend” cereal and sugar messaging in exchange for annual payments.
    • Industry-funded research produces conclusions favorable to the funder at higher rates than non-industry-funded research.
    • Sanitarium partners with schools, nurses, and child health programs and distributes nutrition messaging through these channels.

    Red meat, saturated fat, and chronic disease messaging

    • A “50-year attack” targets foods high in saturated fat and targets red meat.
    • IARC cites six experimental studies and states a “possible link” between red meat and bowel cancer.
    • Cancer Council and other public-health organizations repeat a message that red meat causes bowel cancer.
    • Preventive Health SA promotes a weekly meat-free day, reduced saturated fat intake, and plant-based substitutions.
    • The Health Star Rating algorithm grants five stars to Weet-Bix and to UP&GO.

    Corporate partnerships and policy leverage

    • AdventHealth acquires Blue Zones rights in 2020 and sells city accreditation costing over $7 million per year.
    • Blue Zones accreditation requires cities to enforce plant-based procurement and other food-policy changes across schools, restaurants, and workplaces.
    • Coca-Cola funds and promotes “Exercise is Medicine” messaging that shifts focus to exercise instead of product reduction.
    • Food and beverage lobbyists influence governments and receive at least $5 billion per year in operating-cost tax relief.

    Pharmaceutical industry influence and enforcement gaps

    • Public Citizen Health Research Group documents hundreds of cases of unlawful pharmaceutical promotion with tens of billions of dollars in penalties.
    • Australia’s TGA funding model relies on pharmaceutical industry fees for 96% of its budget.
    • A 2014 paper reports concealed drug-company influence over clinical knowledge and medical education.
    • A 2016 study finds that industry payments to clinicians increase brand-name prescribing, including at low-dollar levels.
    • A 2017 Cochrane review compares industry-sponsored trials with other sponsorship and finds more favorable efficacy conclusions under industry sponsorship.
    • A 2009 meta-analysis reports self-admitted falsification or fabrication by scientists between 1992 and 2002 and reports a separate rate for observed misconduct.
    • The FDA authorizes many drugs between 2013 and 2023 despite inadequate evidence of efficacy.

    Diabetes remission and guideline conflict

    • The Australian National Diabetes Strategy (2021-2030) includes type 2 diabetes remission via dietary interventions and bariatric surgery.
    • The RACGP diabetes handbook includes a remission section and devotes many pages to pharmaceutical management.
    • Ten of eleven handbook authors have financial ties to pharmaceutical companies.
    • General practitioners trust the RACGP diabetes handbook as a core clinical reference.

    Actions advocated in the talk

    • Governments should remove conflicts of interest from guideline bodies and nutrition institutions.
    • Governments should restrict marketing of ultra-processed foods to children.
    • Governments should pursue fiscal policy options such as sugar taxes and reduced subsidies for harmful products.
    • Clinical care should prioritize real food and metabolic correction over indefinite pharmacotherapy.

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    THESIS: Claimed drivers of Australia’s chronic disease crisis

    • Australia is in a chronic disease crisis.
    • Diet quality is connected to chronic disease outcomes.
    • Ultra-processed foods occupy a large role in the food environment.
    • Conflicts of interest appear as a recurring theme in institutions and messaging.
    • Nutrition education in medical training is treated as limited.

    HISTORICAL NARRATIVE: Saturated fat, red meat, and dietary ideology

    • Dietary guidance targets saturated fat and red meat.
    • Mid-20th-century ideas connect saturated fat with harm and name Dr. Keys.
    • The Seven Countries story receives a “flawed” label.
    • The phrase “the unfair demonization of red meat” appears with a mid-19th-century origin claim.
    • Ellen G. White appears as a named figure in that origin claim.
    • Ellen G. White appears as a co-founder of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
    • Ellen G. White appears with a severe head injury in early teens and subsequent visions.
    • A meat-free “Garden of Eden” diet appears with fruits, nuts, vegetables, and seeds.
    • Claims connect meat with sexual immorality and masturbation.
    • Claims connect meat with cancer.

    SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISM AND SANITARIUM: Institutional channel to food and policy

    • Sanitarium appears in connection with Seventh-day Adventist institutions.
    • The phrase “medical evangelism” appears in connection with Sanitarium activity.
    • Public recommendations to limit red and unprocessed meat are rejected.

    DIET SHIFT AND METABOLIC OUTCOMES

    • Obesity and type 2 diabetes appear alongside diet-change framing over time.
    • Ultra-processed foods appear with sugar, refined flour, and seed oils.

    DIETETICS INSTITUTIONS: Professional bodies and conflict claims

    • Lena Cooper appears in connection with the founding of the American Dietetic Association in 1917 and work at Sanitarium.
    • Dietetics organizations outside the US appear in connection with influence from the American Dietetic Association.

    CANCER MESSAGING: Red meat, bowel cancer, and evidence criticism

    • Red and processed meat appear in connection with bowel cancer messaging.
    • The International Agency for Research on Cancer appears as part of that pathway.
    • The World Cancer Research Fund appears as part of that pathway.

    ADVOCACY AND EDUCATION CHANNELS: Recipes, fact sheets, schools

    • Schools appear in connection with dietary-guidance teaching.
    • Life Ed appears in connection with Sanitarium.

    HEALTH STAR RATING AND INDUSTRY DESIGN CLAIMS

    • The Health Star Rating system appears as a public-facing nutrition labeling system.
    • Weet-Bix appears with a five-star Health Star Rating.
    • Weet-Bix appears with a blood-glucose comparison to Cocoa Pops.

    HEART FOUNDATION AND SAX INSTITUTE: Conflicting statements

    • Heart Foundation messaging appears with a claim that higher red meat intake increases heart disease risk.
    • A Sax Institute evidence review appears with a claim that red meat intake is not associated with coronary heart disease risk.

    ENVIRONMENT AND AGRICULTURE: Plant-based narrative and monocropping critique

    • Monocropping for sugar, flour, and seed oils appears with soil and biodiversity harms.
    • A plant-based-for-the-planet framing is rejected.
    • Ultra-processed plant-based “fake meats” and “fake milks” appear as discouraged.
    • Adventist Health acquisition of Blue Zones appears.

    BIG FOOD AND BIG PHARMA: Misconduct, regulators, and money

    • Nestlé appears in connection with “unhealthy” product-mix claims.
    • Legal penalties and misconduct appear in connection with pharmaceutical companies.
    • TGA funding appears in connection with industry fees and cost recovery.
    • FDA approvals appear in connection with a count of approved medications across a 10-year window.

    MEDICAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST: Trials, research, guidelines

    • Industry funding appears in connection with compromised medical advice, research, and guidelines.
    • A meta-analysis appears with an estimate of admitted falsification or fabrication.

    TYPE 2 DIABETES REMISSION AND GUIDELINE OMISSIONS

    • Type 2 diabetes remission appears as a topic in general-practice guidance.
    • Therapeutic carbohydrate reduction appears in connection with type 2 diabetes management.
    • Diabetes Australia and the Australian Diabetes Society appear in connection with therapeutic carbohydrate reduction materials.

    CLOSING CLAIMS AND PRESCRIPTIVE DIRECTION

    • Eating real food appears as a recommended direction.
    • The quote “The time has come for us to ask, do we love our products more than we love our children?” appears.

    References

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  • It takes 25kg of grain to produce 1 kg of beef.

    That is only applicable in the factory farming context, which I’ve already said I agree with you, all industrial farming isn’t sustainable.

    Seems like we mostly agree on things. Nice to meet you on lemmy, enjoy your lifestyle. I’m glad your getting the outcomes you want on a diet you found for yourself.


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    I’m just coming at it from the health aspects.

    As for the other aspects - the ruminate methane cycle is a historic and carbon sequestration positive cycle. Factory farms are unsustainable but ruminants are a necessary part of soil health and in their natural pastoral setting are not a source of ecosystem harm… in factory farms I also include industrial plant agriculture too, importing fertilizer and soil destroying monocropping isn’t sustainable.

    The kg of grain needed to equate a kg of meat in nutritional value comparisons are crazy! https://hackertalks.com/post/5606539 i.e. if you wanted to eat 100% of the daily recommend nutrition intake eating only Liver - you would need to eat 21g (0.7oz). But with refined grains you would need to eat over 12,000g(26lbs) per day… - These numbers are based on absorption into humans and not raw values measured in the food

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    as a full time carnist - I’m not desperate, I don’t see it as unethical, It’s not that I don’t care about science and health but the data I’ve found does not support the plant based movement, I’m open to new data but not propaganda or low hazard ratio epidemiology