Blatantly funded by the US. Where are all the “foreign interference!!!” Conservatives now? How is this legal??
lol promised money from a felon grifters government? Someone would need to be pretty dense if they thought they’d see a dime of that without getting totally railed.
You all wannabe Americans? Go ahead and move to the US. Apply for citizenship. No one is stopping you. You’re doing the rest of us a favor.
But, you don’t get to take the land with you.
We could start by enforcing our laws. Foreign interference is everywhere, and we’ve just ignored it for decades. Eg, the US funds the Frasier Institute and no one makes any comment about this. Half of our media is owned by them. The convoy was subsidized by US funding. I don’t believe for a moment that the UCP and/or its members aren’t awash in US corporate bribes and cash promises.
Our country is under threat and no one seems to do a damn thing about it. Why doesn’t any politician discuss this? Poilievre talks about Chinese interference, where is the concern for this interference by the US, very clearly our enemy??!
I remember when Canada used to prosecute and jail fascists. Now it coddles them.
No one is stopping you
To be fair, even if in the US legally, ICE is stopping you. And then shipping you off to some other foreign country’s jail.
In this case, I have no problem with that.
We should have some citizenship exchange program so they can swap with those being persecuted in US for not being male white rich.
This is an ongoing operation by the CIA to Balkanize Canada. Canadians need to wake the fuck up.
Luckily they suck at it.
Maybe in Alberta, but in Québec, the independentist party took a frank right turn and is now leading the polls with a high margin. Election are in november this year!
https://qc125.com/
Dark blue “Q” in the charts.
Among their strong supporters is a Québec political commentator active in both Québec and France and funded by a French catho-fascist oligarch.
Not going to happen. Plus, I’ve read that most of those that do want to separate don’t want join the US.
Even IF the people of Alberta vote in favour of leaving Canada it still has to be approved by Parliament, and that is not happening at this time with the current seat counts for each party.
I have lived in Calgary, Alberta for over 20 years. I don’t know a single person who would want to leave Canada. I also know that Alberta would not stand a chance alone. We DEPEND on the federal government for funding and other Provinces for goods. We’re land locked and have next to no manufacturing.
Plus, I’ve read that most of those that do want to separate don’t want join the US.
That’s the fun part, once the US separates you from Canada, you don’t get a choice about whether you want to join the US anymore, because your collapsing economy leaves you no choice. Divide and conquer, literally.
Hopefully those that would vote to separate know this …
IF on the off chance it happens there will be a mass exodus. I’d be moving to British Columbia in a heart beat.
Look at Brexit. Many people look no further than what’s on their Facebook feeds, making it quite easy to sway a referendum that fucks over a whole populace.
It amazes me that after seeing that complete shitshow that was Brexit that provincial separatists are like “Yea, this is exactly what we want and need to work towards”. Bottom of the cesspool bottom feeders the lot of them.
Je dirige tout autant mes critiques acerbes vers les séparatistes québécois.
Fully agree, we will be looking into moving the day after the vote results are announced
You mean the second part of Canada that will get slurped up by the empire? East is actually the safe bet.
There’s no unilateral separation from Canada without reconciling all of the constitutionality protected indigenous land claims, and they’ve all indicated they have no interest. Also the Constitution would need to be renegotiated, and this would require all provinces. This will stretch any practical timeline for secession out indefinitely.
The US interests have no bearing on this, unless they plan on invading.
Yup, they just did a full on genocide on their indigenous groups. I guess I wouldn’t rule out them to do it again.
Votes aren’t looking like they’re going to mean anything in the US anymore. Don’t be too confident they’re going to respect any vote in Alberta.
I believe behind the scenes, it’s got the smell of Trump.
This is treason and should be prosecuted. There is no justice until they are behind bars.
This is like, cut and dry, 100% treason. What the fuck?
The Canadian prosecution and courts absolutely need to squash this. Sub-state actors goin on random adventures like this causes war down the line - in fact we had a 30 Years’ war about that.
It’s just capitalism, baby! Just a business arrangement between two close personal friends in the oil industry. No need to get democracy involved.
Kick these traitors out of Canada or prison. Carney needs to do something about this
#treason
Always was. Make no mistake that Alberta is Canada’s Sudetenland/Crimea. Is it not obvious to say the US military appears more similar to Nazi Germany rather than Russia a couple years ago. Canada is stronger with Alberta and when it’s annexed there must be a fight or it’ll just be easier to get at the rest of greater Canada. Ideally to send a message, traitors/secessionists are imprisoned ASAP.
Dare we say ICE’d?
So it’s okay if Canada and the EU would support and fund the independence of California?
I would say no, and I would expect any sensible country to bar this within its borders. To the extent that a state should have a nonviolent means of secession, this above all should not be subject to foreign interference.
You can find a more detailed view of my opinion on specific independence movements elsewhere in this thread.
Regarding California or indeed any other state breaking away from the US, it’s none of our business. And, before you ask, in the highly unlikely event that they wished to join Canada, I would expect them to gain independence and then, separately, start any process of joining another country.
Russia already does. All such movements they will fund. Catalonia, california, texas, I forget the rest.
If they play this game, watch the west coast and northeast of the US join Canada.
Alberta separatists never shut up about running a pipeline through Washington to the west coast.
If the West Coast went to Canada after Alberta separated, that would be the ultimate poetic justice. Alberta would be back negotiating with Canada but now as a foreign state with all the animosity of a recent separation. I’d almost like to see it if it didn’t mean massive political upheaval.
Wexit is like Brexit but way more petty, stupid, and pointless. An independent Alberta couldn’t defend themselves against ICE stationed in Montana, let alone the US military proper.
And, since America is taking custody of oilfields in this hemisphere under the Monroe Doctrine, the Tarsands are a likely target. Danielle Smith better get comfy cosy with the idea of living in a detention facility, charged with “insulting the Dear Leader under her breath” (slander) or “being a woman in power” (blasphemy).
As a Washingtonian: Fuck that, and fuck them.
Also, do they know anything about Washington? Good luck getting us to agree to an oil pipeline.
I actually wasn’t aware that there would be pushback from Washington on this. The separatists and the Premier constantly go on about how they’ll go to the Americans if Canada won’t let them build a pipeline through BC (even though the Trudeau government literally bought them a pipeline a few years ago).
I imagine their plan is to ship oil to the Gulf States for refining, and that’s it. They probably also assume they’ll get all of the benefits of being American, which I presume mostly involves second amendment rights.
Wexit would be Brexit… but with a landlocked country with an economy a tiny fraction of the size based entirely on oil, who unlike the UK (who is going it alone) are subsumed into a larger country that wants nothing to do with the people and wouldn’t even give them a vote. Oh and good luck with all the indigenous peoples, they are famously even-tempered about having their land occupied and will surely not interrupt any economic infrastructure, and that’s assuming the Supreme Court doesn’t stand on rulings that bar Alberta from leaving and taking unceded land with them.
In a great twist of irony, the indigenous peoples may save Canada, and I hope it ultimately brings all Canadians closer together, and they get the respect they deserve.
Wow, that is pretty shocking to hear. Washington is as progressive as they come in the US, and that includes California. (Without getting into the whole urban/rural divide because that’s true in both/all states.)
I wouldn’t be surprised if the plan is to railroad us, but there would be less pushback shipping it south.
Washington, Oregon, and California would make nice Canadian provinces.
We sure would. The western parts, at least.
How about Alaska?
Culturally right-leaning but much less so than it used to be.
I propose a border swap: USA gets Alberta, Canada gets Washington State
(Please I beg you get me out of here)
I think Oregon and California would want to come too.
And that, my friends, is the art of the deal.
Nooooooo!
80+% of Albertans do NOT support this nonsense!
Trump cancels any talks with Canada over tariffs because of fords anti-tariff commercial, because we’re meddling in their politics, but these Nazi fucking yanks can do this?
Time for Canada to cut off all talk with the filthy yanks, cut off the power we provide them and let them stew in the cold for a while.
Fuck I hate America.
jack posebiec is the owner of the account, endwokeness on social media, he has a honeypot russian wife.
he has a honeypot russian wife
Trade it for California?
I get that they are being hypocrites, but surely it would only make it easier for US states to secede.
They must really hate labor laws and healthcare up there in Alberta to consider this
They hate a lot of things in Alberta.
Healthcare, education, trans people, Brown people, green energy…
