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Cake day: March 9th, 2025

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  • The problem in this discussion is that “nature” isn’t defined clearly. Or rather there are two definitions:

    the narrow one, meaning nature is everything which happens without the influence of humans

    the wide one, meaning nature is practically everything

    This wouldn’t be a problem if we wouldn’t constantly switch between them while talking about it. The everyday meaning is the narrow one, but if we think more about it in a discussion like this we realize we ARE a part of nature. So in a way saying plastic isn’t natural because it is produced by humans can be seen as the same as saying wood or silk isn’t natural.













  • But that’s definitely arguable and can be used to muddy the waters.

    Let’s keep with what is crystal clear:

    • He intentionally walked in front of the car.
    • Shooting her wouldn’t have helped him even if she did in fact wanted to run him over.

    The last point is crucial, because it proves he wasn’t in danger. Shooting her only makes her keep accelerating (more likely even increasing it) while holding the trajectory (at least short distance).

    That’s what people should talk about. It wasn’t self defence but even endangering everyone nearby.