Yeah, Israel’s playing on easy mode. Meanwhile Russia’s got sanctions, their invasion target has enough of an army to fight back, and they still manage to get candidates elected in the US.
Looks like you drank the entire bucket of us propaganda. Liberals that see Russia everywhere is to distract you from the failures of their political party. The politicians that screamed Russia the loudest are the ones that had taken the largest amounts of money from AIPAC. Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections.
Inside the US, there’s a pretty substantial amount of pro-Russia propaganda. For years the NRA was a dominant force in politics and it was completely compromised by Russia. The current US president is a Russian asset. Etc etc.
Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections
I’m not sure about “by far”, but it doesn’t really matter. Two things can be true at the same time. Israel and Russia are both significant threats to the US, both have obtained substantial control over US politicians, and both are threats to their neighbors.
And also there’s overlap because Israel and Russia are partially aligned. (See for example how reluctant Israel has been to offer any support to Ukraine.)
How could Russia trick American billionaires into supporting a candidate that undermines their global ambitions?
Simple, by propaganda. Or did you think billionaires were immune? I’d say they are even more vulnerable because they surround themselves with yes men that agree with anything they say. Sprinkle that with a ton of blackmail and you got yourself a russian asset.
May even use their greed for profit against them, whether it is from the war industry, exotic metals, or plain old deals. They will get their share and destroy democracy if it is in the way.
A few 100 memes on Facebook didn’t have any impact on elections. Russia didn’t fund TV ads or campaign for him. The Russia hysteria coming from oligarchs is to give you a Boogeyman so they can be your savior
It is well known that Russian disinformation campaigns go far beyond that. And frankly, you sound an awful lot like a Russian shill. Kinda hope that’s the case, cause the only other explanation I can fathom is sheer stupidity.
Do you have a reference for a credible study? Since the youth who watches TikTok isn’t that numerous and doesn’t vote that much, how could that have such an influence?
Also how could Russia buy propaganda on Facebook without US approval? The US is doing regime changes all over the world. Why should they make such a Rooky mistake and hand over the presidency at home?
Russian use of social media to disseminate propaganda content was very broad. Facebook and Twitter were used, but also Reddit, Tumblr, Pinterest, Medium, YouTube, Vine, and Google+ (among other sites). Instagram was by far the most used platform, and one that largely remained out of the public eye until late 2018.
Advertisements bought … are estimated to have reached 10 million users. But many more Facebook users were contacted by accounts created by Russian actors. 470 Facebook accounts are known to have been created by Russians … Of those accounts six generated content that was shared at least 340 million times, … The most strident Internet promoters of Trump were paid Russian propagandists/trolls, …
In continued analysis … researchers found the most prominent methods of misinformation were ostensibly “organic posting, not advertisements”
Facebook originally denied that fake news on their platform had influenced the election and had insisted it was unaware of any Russian-financed advertisements but later admitted that about 126 million Americans may have seen posts published by Russia-based operatives.
There is more, but I think the 600+ sources in the wikipedia article do a better job than I ever will.
They don’t have as much influence as liberals like to believe they do, they just have a political party that is so inept in governing that they have to blame it on someone so they choose Russia. It’s the exact same techniques the government used during the 1950s Red scare, they convince the public that Russians are everywhere
This country is so politically divided that no amount of Facebook memes is going to change a Democrat voter to a Republican or vice versa. Democrats have a history of propping up pieces of shit as candidates and then are shocked when people don’t support their pieces of shit based on them having a shitty history and then blame Russia.
And Republicans have a history of blatant lies; your argument is irrelevant, though.
Fully a third of the country is neither Republican or Democrat. THAT’S what decides elections, not how many are ‘red’ vs ‘blue’ (in fact, for many years now, Republicans are the minority, and by your logic would never win anywhere).
Again, your assertion that social media-based disinfo campaigns don’t do anything is just not true. Like at all.
A Republican will tell you that they do not like Mexicans. Democrats will say we’re going to protect them from deportation and that they are safe, then deport them anyway. A Republican will tell you they do not like the LGBTQ community. Democrats will embrace them while calling themselves an ally, then then make them the punchline whenever they are faced was people they don’t agree with.
Yeah, Israel’s playing on easy mode. Meanwhile Russia’s got sanctions, their invasion target has enough of an army to fight back, and they still manage to get candidates elected in the US.
Looks like you drank the entire bucket of us propaganda. Liberals that see Russia everywhere is to distract you from the failures of their political party. The politicians that screamed Russia the loudest are the ones that had taken the largest amounts of money from AIPAC. Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections.
Inside the US, there’s a pretty substantial amount of pro-Russia propaganda. For years the NRA was a dominant force in politics and it was completely compromised by Russia. The current US president is a Russian asset. Etc etc.
I’m not sure about “by far”, but it doesn’t really matter. Two things can be true at the same time. Israel and Russia are both significant threats to the US, both have obtained substantial control over US politicians, and both are threats to their neighbors.
And also there’s overlap because Israel and Russia are partially aligned. (See for example how reluctant Israel has been to offer any support to Ukraine.)
Israel doesn’t support Ukraine because of the war going in Ukraine is in the interest of the US.
I think something the Epstein files are showing us is that they’re the same threat.
Fascists globally, are the threat, regardless of the government they’ve commandeered.
Accusing others of falling for propaganda while denying that trump is a russian assett is very funny.
That’s like denying that israel is committing genocide while israelis very openly call for genocide.
Pro Russia is pro multipolar world is pro China.
How could Russia trick American billionaires into supporting a candidate that undermines their global ambitions?
The US billionaires can push for an impeachment at any time. Trump must be their candidate.
Simple, by propaganda. Or did you think billionaires were immune? I’d say they are even more vulnerable because they surround themselves with yes men that agree with anything they say. Sprinkle that with a ton of blackmail and you got yourself a russian asset.
May even use their greed for profit against them, whether it is from the war industry, exotic metals, or plain old deals. They will get their share and destroy democracy if it is in the way.
Maybe a dozen fall for his charm but his gaudy style can’t convince the billionaires like it convinces the masses.
American workers can’t unionize at Starbucks. That’s one billionaire. Putin can’t have managed to outwit all 1,000 billionaires.
Nothing that Putin can offer can compensate American billionaires for losing hegemonial power.
American billionaires destroy democracy. But it is for them, not Putin.
Oh, so McCheetoh has no connections to Russia? And Russia clearly has not directly benefited from his actions?
Don’t get me wrong, AIPAC can burn in the deepest layers of hell; but pretending Russia is harmless is just beyond the pale.
A few 100 memes on Facebook didn’t have any impact on elections. Russia didn’t fund TV ads or campaign for him. The Russia hysteria coming from oligarchs is to give you a Boogeyman so they can be your savior
It is well known that Russian disinformation campaigns go far beyond that. And frankly, you sound an awful lot like a Russian shill. Kinda hope that’s the case, cause the only other explanation I can fathom is sheer stupidity.
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Do you have a reference for a credible study? Since the youth who watches TikTok isn’t that numerous and doesn’t vote that much, how could that have such an influence?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections
Also how could Russia buy propaganda on Facebook without US approval? The US is doing regime changes all over the world. Why should they make such a Rooky mistake and hand over the presidency at home?
The wikipedia article has over 600 hundred references, including a section specifically on the disinformation campaign.
There is more, but I think the 600+ sources in the wikipedia article do a better job than I ever will.
They don’t have as much influence as liberals like to believe they do, they just have a political party that is so inept in governing that they have to blame it on someone so they choose Russia. It’s the exact same techniques the government used during the 1950s Red scare, they convince the public that Russians are everywhere
So what do you blame the obvious ineptitude of the current administration on???
And tell your boss that your talking points need to be updated cuz they’re weak as hell…
This country is so politically divided that no amount of Facebook memes is going to change a Democrat voter to a Republican or vice versa. Democrats have a history of propping up pieces of shit as candidates and then are shocked when people don’t support their pieces of shit based on them having a shitty history and then blame Russia.
And Republicans have a history of blatant lies; your argument is irrelevant, though.
Fully a third of the country is neither Republican or Democrat. THAT’S what decides elections, not how many are ‘red’ vs ‘blue’ (in fact, for many years now, Republicans are the minority, and by your logic would never win anywhere).
Again, your assertion that social media-based disinfo campaigns don’t do anything is just not true. Like at all.
A Republican will tell you that they do not like Mexicans. Democrats will say we’re going to protect them from deportation and that they are safe, then deport them anyway. A Republican will tell you they do not like the LGBTQ community. Democrats will embrace them while calling themselves an ally, then then make them the punchline whenever they are faced was people they don’t agree with.
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Nobody said which threat was larger. But it is absolutely stupid to have such a one-track mind when it comes to danger. Have a little nuance.