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Dippy, dippy@beehaw.org
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Well I think you should speak for yourself only because there are people who are currently vegan who do miss aspects of an omnivorous diet. And there are tons more who want to join us but need this stuff in the market before they’ll be ready to make the change. You dont have to put this stuff on your plate for you to uplift it and reduce animal agriculture. Let me repeat, you dont have to want to eat it yourself for you to get really excited that these things exist for your fellow humans.
Accused of doing a good thing?
Taste and texture parody is super easy if you use some real meat in the mix, as Friedrich points out. The tricky part is getting the public to understand this to be a transparent, thoughtful initiative instead of a sneaky profit boosting method. It would be a reducitarian’s dream though.
The inherently smaller investment of calories to produce either “veggie meats” or cultivated meats does mean that if we get the manufacturing process down, we can produce food cheaper than animal farmers ever could, with less land used, with fewer middlemen. All things that our capitalistic overlords desire.
Friedrich gets into that towards the end of the piece. He points out that the total investment into these things is just low. They’ve only gotten a few billion dollars total and thats for both R&D and production. Its hardly enough to get off the ground for a whole new product. Which is exactly where beyond and impossible are, just getting off the ground.
Cultivating meat isnt too bad because its borrowing from an existing field of science, doctors have been growing tissue for surgeries for years. There are life long experts in that. Food imitation is brand new and has to be developed from scratch.
I have confidence that both will succeed with time and funding. Expect that every doubling of production will yield a precipitous drop in price paired with a rise in quality.
Okay but its not just about us. Its about shifting the whole food system. The percent of the population that lives vegan has unfortunately not increased notably in the past 20 years, but so far, the cost & taste competitive meat alternatives have not actually hit much of the market. This new technology is the first thing ever to actually have a shot of swaying your cousin who loves burgers.
OffbeatA lot of the athletes dont use the provided condoms but instead take them as souvenirs
196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Oh I know it’s connected, I simply lament it
Memes@sopuli.xyz
4chan is a psyop from the top, the trans panic is a distraction from the top, stuff like that
196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
It would be nice if it wasnt concurrent with the climate crisis, but what can you do?
Memes@sopuli.xyz
Speeding is a scam that turns danger into wasted gas without getting you to your destination measurable faster
World NewsOnly 5? We gotta do more to prevent fascism.
TechnologyGood
TelevisionThe cosmere has reached its halfway point. Mistborn era 1 is done. Mistborn era 2 is done. Stormlight is halfway done, and there is a sizeable gap between book 5 and the next book to be published, though it wont be enough to count as a separate era, most likely
Ren and Stimpy should never have been created. The best thing to ever happen to it was canceling it. It should stay dead.
United States | News & PoliticsIts incredibly graphic. Much more so than the videos of Renee Goods murder.
Im very pro rooftop for this reason. The most efficient place to generate electricity is where it will be used. The more transmission you need, the higher the cost. If the majority of energy is generated at the point of use, or close to it, transmission lines are only needed to balance out the margins
Guess who just discovered Virtual Power Plants
I mean you can literally just kill your feed, often times remotely, if that is happening (and a problem for you)
Well I think you should speak for yourself only because there are people who are currently vegan who do miss aspects of an omnivorous diet. And there are tons more who want to join us but need this stuff in the market before they’ll be ready to make the change. You dont have to put this stuff on your plate for you to uplift it and reduce animal agriculture. Let me repeat, you dont have to want to eat it yourself for you to get really excited that these things exist for your fellow humans.
Accused of doing a good thing?
Taste and texture parody is super easy if you use some real meat in the mix, as Friedrich points out. The tricky part is getting the public to understand this to be a transparent, thoughtful initiative instead of a sneaky profit boosting method. It would be a reducitarian’s dream though.
The inherently smaller investment of calories to produce either “veggie meats” or cultivated meats does mean that if we get the manufacturing process down, we can produce food cheaper than animal farmers ever could, with less land used, with fewer middlemen. All things that our capitalistic overlords desire.
Friedrich gets into that towards the end of the piece. He points out that the total investment into these things is just low. They’ve only gotten a few billion dollars total and thats for both R&D and production. Its hardly enough to get off the ground for a whole new product. Which is exactly where beyond and impossible are, just getting off the ground.
Cultivating meat isnt too bad because its borrowing from an existing field of science, doctors have been growing tissue for surgeries for years. There are life long experts in that. Food imitation is brand new and has to be developed from scratch.
I have confidence that both will succeed with time and funding. Expect that every doubling of production will yield a precipitous drop in price paired with a rise in quality.
Okay but its not just about us. Its about shifting the whole food system. The percent of the population that lives vegan has unfortunately not increased notably in the past 20 years, but so far, the cost & taste competitive meat alternatives have not actually hit much of the market. This new technology is the first thing ever to actually have a shot of swaying your cousin who loves burgers.
What problems can fake meat solve, and how do we get there? (volts.wtf)
Host David Roberts speaks to Bruce Friedrich about how fake meat, plant based or lab grown, can reduce our land use substantially, reduce emissions substantially, and end or reduce the cruelty of animal agriculture. Notably, Friedrich contends that fake meats could end up on a learning curve to bring down the price of these meat alternatives to be cheaper than the real stuff. Much in the same way that we got better at making solar panels and flat screen TVs to the point where those items are magnitudes cheaper than they were just 10 years ago.
A lot of the athletes dont use the provided condoms but instead take them as souvenirs
Oh I know it’s connected, I simply lament it
4chan is a psyop from the top, the trans panic is a distraction from the top, stuff like that
It would be nice if it wasnt concurrent with the climate crisis, but what can you do?
Speeding is a scam that turns danger into wasted gas without getting you to your destination measurable faster
Only 5? We gotta do more to prevent fascism.
Good
The cosmere has reached its halfway point. Mistborn era 1 is done. Mistborn era 2 is done. Stormlight is halfway done, and there is a sizeable gap between book 5 and the next book to be published, though it wont be enough to count as a separate era, most likely
Customized you say? Hmmmm
Ren and Stimpy should never have been created. The best thing to ever happen to it was canceling it. It should stay dead.
Its incredibly graphic. Much more so than the videos of Renee Goods murder.
Im very pro rooftop for this reason. The most efficient place to generate electricity is where it will be used. The more transmission you need, the higher the cost. If the majority of energy is generated at the point of use, or close to it, transmission lines are only needed to balance out the margins
Guess who just discovered Virtual Power Plants