“He did it. He threw the sandwich.”

That’s how the defense counsel for Sean Dunn, the man who threw a sub-style sandwich at a Border Patrol officer in Washington, DC, this summer began the federal trial against him Tuesday morning.

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              It’s not being gay, it’s being a bunch of hypocrites about being gay that deserves the ridicule

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              No, every representation of human sexuality can be beautiful (with consent that is). Just wordplay with one of the multiple terms for sub, hero, blimp, torpedo and yes, grinder.

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              Hi, wanted to ask how you want me to handle this report? https://i.ibb.co/rGRqTJTt/1.png

              You reported me, on my own instance, to myself… guess I’m not sure what you want me to do here? Do you think “hostility” is a violation of my instance’s sidebar rules? If not, can you tell me which of my own rules I’ve broken? I’m eager to hear your response. :)

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      I’m sure we all know the phrase that a prosecutor could get a grand jury to “indict a ham sandwich”. It took prosecutors THREE Grand Juries to finally get an indictment for someone throwing that sandwich.

      It’s all a complete waste of time and taxpayer funds, and in any other point in history these prosecutors would have been fired immediately for incompetence at even considering an indictment in the first place, not even considering the possibility that they would try for three attempts.

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        They never got the indictment. The prosecutor had to downgrade the charges from a felony to a misdemeanor, which doesn’t have to go before a grand jury.

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          I didn’t even realize that, last I had heard was them putting it before the third jury, and then that there was going to be a trial.

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          if a grand jury won’t indict, doesn’t double jeopardy apply? not a lawyer, just haven’t dealt with this part of the process before

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            A grand jury is a sort of sanity check on a charge, and does not count towards the trial. It is basically “with these facts (provided only by the prosecution), is there enough probable cause to move a case to trial?”. Double jeopardy in the 5th amendment has specific protections from going to trial multiple times or from getting multiple punishments for a crime.

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        Actually, it’s even stupider than that I’m pretty sure, two grand juries refused to give them an indictment for a felony charge, so they brought a way less severe misdemeanor charge because you don’t have to get a grand jury to sign off on those, and that’s what we’re wasting this time on

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          As it so happens, they can indict ham sandwiches, but not turkey subs. And I think this is arguably funnier.

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      I hope a news outlet has the boldness to run this story after one showing DHS brutality, including the taxpayer costs, and before one about SNAP, healthcare and the shutdown. This administration is well past the point of pissing on Americans while telling them it’s raining.

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      Dear Lord don’t you know this will lead to ICBMs! Intercontinental ballistic meatballs are nothing to be trifled with. Next they’ll add mozzarella to them

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      It’s just a shame it wasn’t a lead sandwich traveling at 1500 fps

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      If it makes you feel any better, because of the shutdown, we aren’t spending money on this. \s

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    I hope the people around him never let him live a minute without being reminded about what a weak little boy he is for whining about taking a soft, succulent sub to the shoulder.

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    I hope the jury are all served sub sandwiches for lunch each day of this trail.

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    As neither party disputes the basic facts of the case, jurors will need to determine whether the sandwich-throwing is enough to convict Dunn on the misdemeanor assault charge.

    Even if it is, this is a job for jury nullification.

    A DC jury recently acquitted a different resident who was also charged with assault for allegedly moving her knee up toward an officer while being restrained after filming officers as they made immigration-related arrests.

    I see that sense is, ever so slowly, being restored.

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      That sandwich did not explode. It flopped limply against his chest just as you would expect a sub from Subway to do.

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        People are all ACAB but when you hear about the horrors these cops have to face, it makes you think. Could you handle the smell of onions and mustard? Would it make you hungry? What if there were no donuts in the area?

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    Video clearly shows that the sandwich was fully wrapped. Why do they need to lie?

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      Because conservatives are fucking snowflakes.

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        Seriously, it was a fucking sandwich. Pick it up and eat it or something you miserable excuse for a person. God damn.

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          Yeah maybe he was trying to share his dinner. Or play footballlong

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    US catches up - abot 10 years ago, a riot cop in Russia became a victim of an empty paper cup throwing. It was qualified as assault, btw.

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      No. Remember that they could not get this through a grand jury. The Grand Juries are practicing Nullification for these incidents because the public is sick of Trump and ICE. They had to go with a lesser charge for it … and this one stupid case will likely end this prosecutors career.

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        ~~~~The fact they got a case at all says that people were still willing to allow a case.~~~~
        
        Edit: I was wrong, apparently they dropped it down to a misdemeanor so they didn't need to get it past a grand jury.
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          Yes, a “no true bill” is where a grand jury does not have the 12 votes needed and is rare. It is said a grand jury could indict a ham sandwich. I do not know if this was a ham sandwich thrown, but there have been 8 “no true bill” votes in DC during Trumps shenanigans.

          That is saying something.

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    “The bun was a bit dry and that was more than I could take!”, said the frightened man in army gear.

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    meanwhile, there’s another, actually important trial happening that is describing horrific conditions of ice detention.

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        that’s totally fair. i suppose i meant that this trial should not need to exist because the sandwich debacle should not be any different than someone yelling at them–a simple non violent protest.

        and yes, that’s the other trial I’m referring to.