So ban everyone but anarcho-pacifists from political discourse? Or does systemic violence not count?

The number of Chinese Marxist-Leninists alone vastly outnumbers us Western tankies. The vast majority of “tankies” live in various countries outside of the imperial core.

Even in the US, the most prominent and successful “tankie” organization was the Black Panther Party.

Who is this they you are talking about?

Your fucking government, dumbass. The EU. The people implementing the policy in question. I know y’all act like any criticism of the Israeli government is antisemitic, but does that protection now extend to any criticism of the EU?

I think not having ties with Russian state propaganda for living normally is a risk I’m willing to take, as its no effort for me.

Nothing to hide so you have nothing to fear, eh? Yeah, millions of Americans were fine with our government using extralegal punishments and detentions because they thought it would be limited to terrorists. Now we’re being dragged away to secret torture dungeons in El Salvador.

But fortunately, I’m sure that nothing bad will come of European governments having the tools to punish people without charge or trial. I mean, honestly, what do you even need rights for? Just trust the people in charge to sort out the good guys and the bad guys.

Say, unrelated, but how’s the AFD doing these days? And, purely hypothetically, if they got into government, how would you feel about them having a precedent that would allow them to apply these punishments to anyone they consider to have engaged in wrongthink?

All these other speculations you’re pointing to you would have to prove to me first.

What speculations would I have to prove? That domestic polls are unreliable?

I’ve seen a lot of people dismiss domestic polls in China that show overwhelming support for the government as unreliable. I’ve never seen one of them feel the need to prove it, or present a shred of evidence. In fact, when outside polls have confirmed those results, they just say that they’re all “brainwashed” or “propagandized.”

Not quite as fun when it’s your people’s perspective that’s being written off, is it?

while I don’t approve of the method

Is it safe for you to say this?

If you say something they don’t like, they could do the same to you, no charge, no trial. And criticizing that practice might be something they don’t like, even if not today, then maybe tomorrow.

You’re probably fine for now because you justified the actions by attacking the victim, but this might be as critical as you’re allowed to be.

I think we need to start getting some reliable, neutral outside polls on Europe to see how they really feel about their governments. Maybe we can bring in some Chinese pollsters. Obviously anyone voicing approval in domestic polls is just afraid of the repercussions of voicing a negative opinion.

Yes, I would. Or if he was to be removed, that should be up to the Libyans, without foreign interference.

Gaddafi was removed not because of any humanitarian reason but because he stood in the way of foreign interests. Gaddafi asserted Libyan control over Libyan oil and redirected at least some of that money towards the Libyan people (the per capita income in Libya under Gaddafi was 5th highest in Africa), and that was fundamentally unacceptable to the US and its allies, just as it has been in for nearly every country in the region. What they want are states like Saudi Arabia, where the ruling class can be bought off on a personal level to keep the oil flowing while repressing the people.

US/NATO led regime change never produces good outcomes for anyone but oil companies and war profiteers, and that’s by design. If they can’t control it, they can at least deny the resources to others and set an example for any other country that attempts to assert control over their own resources. NATO opened a pandora’s box of chaos and there’s no telling if or when it will end, just as US-led forces did in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

I’d say that you refuse to learn from history and seem dead-set on repeating the mistakes of the past, but again, they were never mistakes. The people making the decisions got exactly what they wanted, it’s only a mistake from the absolutely delusional perspective that intervention in places like Libya, Afghanistan, now Iran (yet again), were ever driven by any thought of helping ordinary people. The purpose of a system is what it does.

I don’t recall the UN resolution telling them to assassinate Gaddafi and destabilize the country.

Was Libya also populated by Chinese bots?

But you’re telling him he doesn’t understand basic economics

We already have perfectly fine meat substitutes. Have you actually tried them? They’ve come a long way.

I don’t know that lab grown meat will ever be able to replace meat if people keep eating it at the same rate. Besides, there’s nothing I, as an individual, can do to advance the progress lab grown meat. I can help advance the progress of meat substitutes by… buying them instead of meat.

Cutting meat out of my life saves the lives of countless animals. That is a lot more practical than wishing upon a star that lab grown meat was more developed or economically viable.

I don’t care. I get to decide what you believe, apparently.

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Yeah, it’s a step up from dealing with your regular bullshit.

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