https://lemmy.ml/post/28111691/17749466
This is actually insane. Another user was criticizing the New Deal era and brought up a bunch of points, I commented refuting a bunch of their points but describing two of of them, Japanese Internment and the Red Scare, simply as “legitimate criticism.”
@Decoy321@lemmy.world responded “No they’re not. Those two things were caused by far greater international factors. Like, you know, the 2nd World War.”
I cited a commission that found that internment was not caused by a legitimate threat posed by the Japanese but was rather caused by racism and hysteria, and that even Reagan agreed with that conclusion and signed a bill paying reparations to the victims.
Well then the mod responded that I was jumping to “inflammatory conclusions” and “personal attacks” because I assumed that when they said that criticism of internment is not legitimate it meant that they were defending internment. They continued to refuse to explain how else I was possibly supposed to interpret such a claim. I still have no idea. Apparently their stance is, “It’s not legitimate to criticize the thing I oppose.” If anyone can make sense of that, please enlighten me.
Since they refused to explain, I took a guess that maybe the misunderstanding was that they were interpreting “legitimate criticism” as “damning criticism,” like that because a bad thing happened during that era, nothing good came of it at all. I made it clear that this was speculation and that any criticism of interpreting it that way only applied if that’s what was happening.
The mod responded by permabanning me, removing all of my comments so they don’t show in the modlog, and adding this:
Edit: the other commenter essentially proved that they were just baiting people into inflammatory discussion. They kept resorting to personal attacks and flip-flopped on their position solely to continue arguing. This behavior is not tolerated here. Please report such trolls in the future.
At literally no point did I “flip-flop” my position of “internment was bad, actually.” Nor did I “bait” them, unless “criticizing internment is legitimate,” is somehow “baiting” someone into saying “no it isn’t.” By far the most “inflammatory” thing that was said was when they said that criticism of internment was “not legitimate.” The “personal attacks” I made were stating the fact that the position they had expressed was to the right of Reagan on the issue, and also making a quip about a .world mod defending the Red scare and Joseph McCarthy.
This seems to be a case of a clear case of PTB, the mod apparently misspoke but because they’re a mod they can just ban people for calling them out instead of owning up to it.
Edit: My comments are still visible on kbin.earth (thank you @Skua@kbin.earth) so I can provide screenshots:
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Interesting to see the “banned from community badge”
They added it recently to the new Lemmy-UI version since it helps making it clear that someone has been banned from a community or an instance in their comments to make people aware before replying to them. It was something I suggested a while ago based on the Badges which used to be in the Liftoff Lemmy App (unfortunately now defunct).
PTB, it’s well known that Lemmy.ml mods are power trippers and the fact that he ticked remove content on ban so the comments wouldn’t show in the log seems telling enough. It’s a well known trick mods on Lemmy use to make sure there isn’t a modlog record of the comments they removed from a person.
If I were you I’d recommend blocking all their communities and not engaging there anymore, but an even better idea would be simply to migrate to another instance and then block lemmy.ml. I’d say that’s the best thing you can do since lemmy.ml admins have also been known to power trip in similar ways.
Edit: Whoops it was a .world mod, well I think my main point still stands, would be best to block those communities.
It was a .world mod not .ml.
Oops, my bad 😅
Are saying he should block lemmy.world and move somewhere else where mods are responsible?
My original assumption was that he was on lemmy.ml. I wouldn’t advocate moving to lemmy.world since it’s a very large instance, though blocking Lemmy.world can be hard since it’s a very large instance. They should absolutely block the community that banned them and any others modded by that same mod.




