atrielienz

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atrielienz ,

Saying Generative AI lies is attributing the ability to reason to it. That's not what it's doing. It can't think. It doesn't "understand".

So at best it can fabricate information by choosing the statistically best word that comes next based on its training set. That's why there is a distinction between Generative AI hallucinations and actual lying. Humans lie. They tell untruths because they have a motive to. The Generative AI can't have a motive.

atrielienz ,

You can also do this via the web portal if you happen to have wifi access. Just in case someone needed that information.

atrielienz ,

They may have done, but if you're referring to the kidnapped woman who's footage was pulled from the backend after they said she didn't have a subscription, she had a Google Nest Camera.

I wouldn't doubt that Amazon does this too but Google is just as bad if not worse.

atrielienz ,

I didn't realize until I read your comment that the AI was integrated into Slack and told this person that they didn't need to evacuate without them specifically asking the AI for advice.

On the other hand, this does show that anything typed into that slack channel is treated like a query. Which is also terrifyingly stupid.

atrielienz , (edited )

My hope is they did this after they evacuated. But honestly could go either way.

atrielienz ,

I always wondered if the shape and size of your ears and nose etc change the way you register smells and hear sounds. Like your hearing isn't the same as the person next to you etc.

Sort of like how different radar arrays are shaped different and pick up different frequencies differently etc.

atrielienz ,

Ok. So explain where the investment is. What does "eating the loss" do for them in the long term? How do they recoup that loss? Loss leaders (the Costco hotdog, PlayStation consoles etc) are used by businesses as a way to get people to buy into their other products that do make healthy profits. Costco's hotdog gets people in the door, and those people buy other stuff because "while we're here". There's a psychology to that strategy.

Sony uses sales of the PlayStation consoles to get people locked into their platform where they spend money on games, and skins, and micro transactions etc. People used the PlayStation to play Blu-ray (also a Sony property), and DVDs, and stream content like movies, and music. This nets them healthy profits while selling the hardware at or below cost.

Nintendo is said to do the same thing with the Switch/Switch 2. So there's a cost to benefit ratio equation going on in each case.

What is the cost to benefit equation for Valve selling the Steam Deck at a loss? Their e-shop doesn't depend on the hardware to sell games. They aren't locking people into Steam in a way that's meaningful because other hardware exists with the same or better ability to play all the same games. The Steam e-shop doesn't require you to only play games on the Steam Deck.

So that's where you lose me.

atrielienz ,

I think this may depend on the instance you're on. The "trans" spam bot hit up my sister's account but she's on fedia/mbin. I haven't noticed the other abuses per se to be like. Rampant or anything.

But I also don't check DM's.

atrielienz ,

No. They are pointing out that Google is trying to demonize installing software outside their app store. But that's exactly what you're doing when you download an os update. Installing software outside the app store.

atrielienz ,

Discord just had a breach of that ID data. Discord is going to lose a lot of users this way.

atrielienz , (edited )

I know of a guy who had his driver's license permanently revoked because he racked up so many DUI's. He lived in rural Indiana, and bought a moped because they didn't require a license to drive. Obviously he did not stop driving drunk.

But also, the moped did in fact make noise.

atrielienz ,

Sigh. I wish Russia could be a better place to live. Jailing people for liking popular media is nuts by just about ever metric.

atrielienz ,

They are a business owner asking online if they can ignore an order after using a chatbot to communicate with and interface with customers. They failed in their duties to themselves and their customers by not vetting the tools they allowed on their website.

This is on them. I'm not celebrating that they are in a bad position. But I'm not surprised that this happened and I don't feel empathy for someone who should have known better. If it can happen to giant airlines and big tech firms, it can happen to you, and since the small business owner doesn't have the market cap to offset such a "mistake", they get what they paid for.

Nobody forced them to become an entrepreneur. Nobody forced them to use a chatbot on their website. Nobody forced them to not explore the functionality of their chatbot, or not put guardrails on it.

There are plenty of websites and storefronts that have order forms that just work. There wasn't a need to use the chatbot to take orders.

This is a costly lesson for this shop owner, but it's a lesson they could have learned from watching others. Instead they chose to get a first hand experience of the pitfalls of using AI as a customer support medium.

atrielienz ,

There's an equally valid chance they are not and will not be my "ally" at any point.

I say that because having been burned by the AI they used and regardless to whether or not they see posts like this one online, they seem more worried about the fact that this order may be valid than they do about the fact that this chatbot gave a completely hallucinated discount code at all.

A lawyer, not reddit, should be determining whether or not this person is liable for honoring the discount. I suspect they are not even on the hook for what the chatbot promised, legally speaking. And all of that assumes this is even a real thing that happened and not some random bot account on reddit making it up for clout or karma farming.

The vast majority of people aren't even pointing and laughing. They are asking "what did you expect?". That's a valid question.

Falling for marketing doesn't absolve anyone of their responsibility to do their own due diligence. A cursory search of the internet would provide thousands of hits explaining the pros and cons of such a chatbot.

If this doesn't change this (potentially fabricated) persons mind about AI I'm not sure what will.

atrielienz ,

Is the plan to store these cars they're seizing in your plan somewhere? To sell them?

How much is the cost of seizing and storing a vehicle? How much is the cost of building a place to house these seized vehicles?

Who pays that cost?

Where is such a facility going to be built?

Even if you did sell the vehicles, who gets the proceeds? What stops the person from suing the state or municipality for selling items that don't belong to them?

That's even before we think about the economic impact of these people living in a very car dependant place where that vehicle makes the difference between being able to have access to food and transportation to get to work.

Is the state going to provide shuttles to get these people groceries and to and from work? Who pays for that?

I have a lot of questions about why you'd want it to be okay to seize the property of a person just because they broke the law.

Police can and do already seize and sell assets whether you have committed a crime or not. Usually people want to end such overreach but now you're all the sudden siding with the gestapo in order to seize people's assets because you feel self righteous?

The math doesn't math on this.

What if the car doesn't belong to them? Are we going to suddenly start seizing the assets of someone who leant them the vehicle?

Much better to spend tax payer money to design and implement road features that inhibit speeding.

atrielienz ,

Buses cost money to run, and rural upstate New York (just like a lot of rural areas that are car dependant) do not necessarily have the infrastructure to implement them. Which is exactly why I said shuttles, not buses.

Public transit isn't going to pop out of the ether to fix the problem so that we can just take away people's personal property because they broke the law as if they no longer own it. Civil forfeiture is already a broken law without us making it worse for poor people while rich people continue to get a pass.

They'll buy new vehicles. You can legally purchase a car without a driver's license in most states. You just have to have someone who can legally drive it off the lot of deliver it. Which is simple for a rich person, but not for a poor person.

Like it could be if we were willing to spend the amount of money it would cost to build and upkeep that infrastructure. But that would also likely mean civil forfeiture of land. Because bus stops and side walks and depots don't just show up because you want to take people's cars away.

The cost of all that, plus the cost of implementing the ability to store or sell these vehicles is going to be problematic and more costly than the proposal, which is more fair than the alternative because it treats people regardless of the economic situation the same.

I don't like the proposal, but I can certainly understand why it's being proposed as a better way to fix the problem.

atrielienz ,

That's wonderful. Would not that cost be better spent designing roads that deter speeding by design?

atrielienz , (edited )

You don't own a shovel? If you have hands, you can make a shovel. We will need the shovels for the mass grave after the elite are all gone. You know, so we don't allow the spread of diseases from necrotizing flesh.

atrielienz ,

Didn't Ford's CEO just say they wanted highschool graduates who could do math to be automotive techs making $120K a year?

Plumbers already make ridiculous amounts of money because there aren't enough of them.

The median age in my field 5-10 years ago was 55 years old and we aren't getting an influx of new A&P licensed techs still. The main way the Aviation industry gets it's techs these days is the military and that's not even a sure fire way.

Like. CEO's doing trades when? Because he's clearly mistaken if he thinks that it's not going to be CEO's and upper management people who get their jobs replaced by AI.

They keep trying to replace engineers, software devs and so on with AI at all the tech companies and then having to back out of that decision to keep things running.

atrielienz ,

You're right. But that can only last so long.

Feds skipping infosec industry's biggest conference, RSAC ( www.theregister.com )

The US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency won't attend the annual RSA Conference in March, an agency spokesperson confirmed to The Register. Sessions involving speakers from the FBI and National Security Agency (NSA) have also disappeared from the agenda. ...

atrielienz ,

FBI director breaking opsec best practices and regulations every chance he gets like it's going out of style. Why show up to a conference where other people could talk about that?

atrielienz , (edited )

Especially in one of the most regulated industries on the planet.

atrielienz ,

My mother had one that she used for her vanity.

atrielienz , (edited )

Tell him he's beautiful and I like his hoodie.

atrielienz , (edited )

Why is Epic insignificant?

They launched with a 12% service fee, dropped that service fee to 10%, and then dropped the service fee entirely for the first $1Mn in sales per year.

In June 2025, they released a new feature enabling developers to launch their own webshops hosted by the Epic Games Store. These webshops could offer players out-of-app purchases, as a more "cost-effective" alternative to in-app purchases.

They provide developers with free to generate license keys, and keyless integration with other e-shop stores including GOG, Humble Bundle, and Prime gaming.

They offer a user review system.

They also added cloud saves in July of 2025.

The thing is, they offer none of the other features Steam offers:

  • In-Home Streaming
  • Remote Play with Friends
  • Family Accounts
  • Achievements
  • Price Adjusted Bundles
  • Gifting Games
  • Shopping Cart
  • TV/Big Screen Mode

Epic launched their service in 2018. It's been 7 years. The only reason not to offer feature parity (for a company that makes $4.6Bn - 5.7Bn in revenue, and a shop that makes $1.09Bn, you'd think they would be enticing users with the services they want.

What they have done instead is exclusivity deals that plenty of consumers complain about but devs don't seem to care about so long as they're getting paid.

So, the excuse that Steam got there first (as if it's just about that and the reason their market share is what it is is because they have refined, adapted, and improved their service offering over time) doesn't make a whole lot of sense when steam has a significant percent of the market share (79.5% to epic's 42.3%) but is only making twice the revenue of their rival store.

It makes sense for GOG or Itch.io who's market cap is smaller by quite a lot to not offer the same feature parity. Each of those platforms has figured out they can offer other things to devs and consumers to make themselves competitive over time.

Sweeny's attack is basically just a pity party he's throwing for himself because he doesn't want to compete.

Edit
This is a sanity check because I wasn't correct with my numbers by mistake.

So, the excuse that Steam got there first (as if it's just about that and the reason their market share is what it is is because they have refined, adapted, and improved their service offering over time) doesn't make a whole lot of sense when steam has a significant percent of the market share (79.5% to epic's 42.3%) but is only making twice the revenue of their rival store.

These numbers are not correct and I was mistaken. In actuality Valve's revenue is approximately 16 times that of Epic e-shop. It looks like an estimate of Steam's game sales is that about $4Bn of their revenue last year was from Steam's game sales. I am trying to corroborate that from other sources.

I'm still looking into and trying to parse out what percentage of steams sales last year were hardware (epic to my knowledge doesn't have a hardware arm of their business), and it's not immediately clear how much they made on the e-shop portion of their business alone so I can get more comparable numbers.

What I have been able to find so far I've posted below, and I'll try to remember to come back and do some math on that after I focus on the first thing.

https://gamalytic.com/blog/steam-revenue-infographic

https://80.lv/articles/valve-earned-over-usd4-billion-on-steam-alone-in-2025-analysts-say

atrielienz ,

I never claimed steam was being sued by Sweeney. Sweeney made a statement about the steam lawsuit saying he agreed with it.
https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/epic-games-boss-tim-sweeney-voices-support-for-usd900-million-steam-lawsuit-valve-is-the-only-major-store-still-holding-onto-the-payments-tie-and-30-percent-junk-fee/

I was quickly googling market share stuff on break so I misread the Epic e-shop market share vs Epic's full market share outside that.

The fact that Steam only makes double what epic e-shop makes with literally 11 times the market influence?

What regulations are you expecting out of this? How will that have a positive effect on consumers?

I never said this was about good or bad. I pointed out pros and cons of using each service which extrapolated quite literally to why consumers choose Steam over Epic.

A monopolistic corp who uses anit-consumer/anti-competitve tactics to remain a market leader/? monopoly is illegal. And it's regulated.

The only reason steam is being investigated at all is because 2 or 3 out of literal thousands of game developers have made a claim that steam is threatening to remove their game if they try to sell it on other game stores for cheaper than steam (not steam keys, but using another stores licensing keys).

That hasn't been proven and if it is, a further investigation into how wide spread that behavior is would still be needed to prove that Valve or Steam came by their market share illegally.

Also the fact that you brought up Amazon as the foil to your argument at the end is laughable. For multiple reasons.

atrielienz ,

That's false. They do not allow steam keys (free to generate steam licenses of games) to be sold cheaper anywhere else for less than the game is sold for on steam. And in exchange, the profits on those game licenses sold elsewhere the developer gets to keep 100% of.

It is alleged by one developer that steam told them they can't sell their game for less on other stores even if they use a different company to generate the license keys. But that hasn't been proven. And since only 2 other developers are backing the new class action lawsuit out of literally thousands of devs who would be effected this way if it were true, it logically doesn't make sense. The dev who brought the first lawsuit that go thrown out? Their game is still up on Steam.

The fact is, Epic is making half the revenue Steam is with 11 times less market share, and not gaining market share because customers don't want to use their store. Customers don't want free games they want services that work.

You're alleging that Valve is doing something anti-competitive to maintain their market share here and you still haven't given me what I asked for.

What regulations are you expecting to be imposed, and how will that detrimentally or positively effect the consumers?

atrielienz ,

I'm not reading the Google summary. There is no Google summary for me. That shit is deep sixed. I don't want it. I love it when people automatically assume that I must be using Generative AI to get some silly answer off the internet.

The fact is any game store front is a money printing machine mostly because of the rampant price fixing, hard to enter markets and abuse from those that hold the lion share of that market (Steam, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo).

If so then Epic should have caught up by now, no?

That money is being sucked out of the companies that are actually making games, and is leading to a reduction in quality, layoffs and bankruptcies.

Please back that up. The game developers seeing bankruptcies are seeing them because of gross mismanagement and a never ending attempt to deliver crap that their consumers don't want. Pushing the "bleeding edge" of graphics while making games that sell poorly because they want to charge $60-70 for a game even 5 years after it came out.

And that's with the proliferation of crap like in game micro transactions, season passes, DRM, and internet sanity checks to even play single player games.

Indie developers are caught in the lurch, but that's generally the case with any small business, and on top of that the regulation will probably harm them more than it will help them because the percentage of sales pays for things that they use to market their game.

What is the limit on what store fronts can charge going to be? How much is too much? What does that 30% pay for? Do you know? Does it scale by user base?

Would other store fronts who charge less be more successful by a meaningful amount if they were charging the same?

It literally doesn't matter where your products come from. I own more computer games on disc from physical stores than I do from steam. I have paid for more than one game on both steam, switch, PS4, or physical copy. I'm not trying to call Steam the good guy here.

But I do not trust the developer who originally brought the lawsuit because even now most of the other devs who have games for sale on steam have not attempted to make a statement, join the class action, or even make a complaint about what is alleged.

On top of that, why sue only steam if this is a problem. Nobody is suing Nintendo, PlayStation, or Microsoft over this.

I also never said "steam shouldn't change", or that steam shouldn't take a smaller cut.

I feel like you scanned right over half of what I did say so you could be snotty in your response. You have a good day dude.

atrielienz ,

I can't corroborate that Steam's revenue for the e-shop was $16Bn. The best estimate that I have is that their game sales netted them $4Bn last year. I'm still trying to find a better source for that. However we may both be wrong here.

atrielienz ,

You're not being annoying. It's probably because I lost track and for what it's worth I am sorry, I'll try to fix it but probably won't catch all of them.

atrielienz ,

By sold cheaper I meant MSRP price, not sale price.

atrielienz , (edited )

From what I read, that $4BN number could be taken two ways. I don't know if that analyst excluded the games Valve developed, and that $4BN is games sales of everything else, or if that's what they made from their own titles. I didn't want to go through the rigamarole of Xitter to see the direct quote and I haven't had a chance to find it in the internet archive.

I also kind of want a good run down of what steam offers to developers that makes their platform so attractive because my understanding is it's more than just e-shop services and that's one of the reasons I have seen touted as why people feel the service fee is reasonable.

I didn't want to leave you on read, but I also am still looking up all kinds of random information to put together.

Also, my confusion is because there are two different lawsuits involving the 30% cut of game sales.

There's a class action lawsuit in the UK involving all of steams consumers there, predicated on the idea that the 30% service fee makes games more expensive to the detriment if those consumers.

And there's a different class action lawsuit brought by developers Wolfire and Dark Catt representing every developer who uses Steam as an E-Shop platform, also over the 30% service fee and alleged anti-competitve practices (Wolfire say that Steam told them they couldn't sell their game anywhere else for less than it was available on Steam (even if they didn't use steams license keys)).

I know I can come off as really terse, and tone is hard via text anyway. But thank you for addressing it.

Sorry about yet another wall of text.

PC gamers win the first battle against Valve Corporation as £656m competition claim receives judicial approval ( milberg.co.uk )

The UK specialist competition tribunal has certified the £656m legal claim against Valve brought by children’s rights campaigner, Vicki Shotbolt. This marks a significant first victory for the class of around 14 million PC gamers against Valve – the owner of popular gaming platform, Steam. ...

atrielienz ,

This is not a win for gamers. That spin is wild.

atrielienz ,

It's crazy to me that when they sell a steam key on another store front, steam takes none of the profits from that at all, the key is free to generate for the dev, and the only stipulation is that they have to sell if for the same price it is on the steam store front.

atrielienz , (edited )

Biden is a centrist at best. Far left my ass. Our view of the political spectrum is so warped.

atrielienz ,

I considered him to be solid right when he started his career. His politics is definitely not far right, and it's leaned more left over time. But I would consider him right, except the far right have gone so off the deep end. We also don't have like... An anarchist party or any real far left politicians in America.

That's most of the reason I said "at best". He's much farther right than the right seem to think he is. Everything is messed up here.

atrielienz , (edited )

It's because they don't have an understanding of what Marxism or what communism and anarchism actually are.

Data is beautiful and this chart is probably very accurate, but America's understanding of and perception of the political spectrum has moved so far to the right that we can't even fine find the witness marks of where everything should be.

Label everything communism or socialism and pretend we know what we're talking about.

atrielienz ,

Stupid and ignorant often don't hurt the people who are stupid or ignorant. They generally hurt everyone else though.

atrielienz ,

I doubt this. I use an e-ink android tablet as an e-reader. I like that it's easy on the eyes. For using it to scroll Lemmy or even a web page, it's fine. But the refresh rate (even on the best settings) makes watching a video or gif on it painful.

I don't think anyone really wants an e-ink TV unless they want something that's a hybrid. The things you'd use a tv for are just not e-ink things.

atrielienz ,

It's funny that you think smart TVs don't receive updates. It's got a wifi chip for a reason.

atrielienz ,

My TV isn't going to update because it's been lobotomized.

atrielienz , (edited )

We lived with that because of the technology of the time and cost. An e-ink display of the equivalent size of a TV is gonna be expensive as fuck. And not do better than it's traditional tv counterpart at video output for viewing. The other person mentioned monitors and those make sense because you're generally using them for computer stuff which isn't traditionally movies, television, or games. And if all you want to do is scroll the web and use it for spreadsheets, you're fine there.

But gamers aren't going to buy an e-ink display for gaming. And generally people who want to watch TV and movies won't either.

I'd watch a movie on my phone before I tried it on e-ink.

atrielienz ,

That's not what you said. You said they never receive updates.

atrielienz ,

Thank you for the "Maize Dictatorship". It's a hell of a phrase.

atrielienz ,

I lost a sticker I specifically separated from the other stickers to take to work to attach to a magnet so I could have it stuck to my tool box without having to commit to actually sticking it to my tool box and I am so sad about that, so I feel your pain.

I'm sure it's in a very very safe place I will never check again.

atrielienz ,

To be fair, the headline is a really terrible way to say that Peacock hasn't been in the black, but it's less in the red this year than last year.

atrielienz ,

Apparently the comic creator doesn't know there's a comedian named "Josh Johnson" and I think that's funny.

atrielienz ,

Fair. I just chuckled at it. Don't know why that's a problem.