"Let’s take that number-one narrative, which is I was taught to treat everyone the same. You know, actually no one was - or could be taught to treat everyone the same. We can’t do it. We don’t do it."
"A white progressive generally believes niceness is all that it takes. As long as I’m nice and friendly, I’m finished. And niceness not only is not courageous. But niceness is not going to get racism on the table."