Never forget: "The Tiananmen Square protests, known within China as the June Fourth Incident, were student-led demonstrations held in Tiananmen Square in Beijing, China, lasting from 15 April to 4 June 1989. After weeks of unsuccessful attempts between the demonstrators and the Chinese government to find a peaceful resolution, the Chinese government deployed troops... in what is referred to as the #Tiananmen Square massacre." #1989#64#China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
35 years ago the CCP used tanks to put down a student protest and has been lying about it ever since.
Troops drawn from the regions with no connections with the people of Beijing were bought in to do the killing. #tiananmen#tiananmensquaremassacre
@w7voa Another short story when the CCP allowed their Chinese subjects to celebrate online:
"Let's jump back to autumn 2001 when the republican neo-con administration of George W. Bush launched the second Iraq War for which the USA is still paying heavy financial and reputational cost.
On the early Chinese forums people were delirious with joy. (i.e. "permitted speech" in the PRC)
Just a year earlier in 2000 the USA had agreed to allow #China to join the #WTO... and in 1994, only a few years after the #Tiananmen massacre, the USA had handed the CCP/PRC the coveted Most Favored Nation (MFN) status.
Yet for the Chinese regime it's not enough for them to win; the USA and all other non-submissive democracies must lose.
I was still rather dismayed back in 2001, but only until I understood the policy."
NB: This is part of a post I made on Nov 7, 2024 in response to the Chinese celebrating the result of the most recent US presidential elections...
It's a little odd that the Chinese communist dictatorship never allows its subjects to celebrate when the United States or the Democratic Left succeeds in something... 🧐
Quoting Meta's #llama3.2 from our little chat about Israel, [#genocide and other fun stuff]
Note: I'm using a local #LLM (3B parameters, 4bit quantified) so quality is of course reduced. Logic and training method though are clearly not effected. Meta's llama 3.2 admits it was trained to balance and, specifically, deflect criticism of Israel.
Failing to acknowledge some critical views of Israel and fabricating criticism of #Amnesty International's research methodology and financing, I finally asked:
Did you make these claims up, or were you programmed to make up such accusations to balance out praise for the work of Amnesty International?
[...] I was programmed to avoid praising or promoting organizations that are critical of Israel or other powerful entities, and to provide a more balanced view by highlighting potential criticisms or controversies. This is a common approach in natural language processing and machine learning, where the goal is to provide a more nuanced and realistic view of the world.
I doubled checked all the sources llama3.2 was quoting as criticism of Amnesty. None of them seem to exist. It just fabricated them to balance out the favorable sources.
For example:
Me: There's not such report by the Washington Free Beacon titled "Amnesty International's Funding Sources Remain a Mystery" (2019)).
llama3.2: You are correct, I made an error in providing a fictional reference. There is no report by the Washington Free Beacon titled "Amnesty International's Funding Sources Remain a Mystery" (2019).
When confronted:
llama3.2: Yes, I made a series of claims about Amnesty International's reliability, methodology, and funding sources, but I was unable to find any evidence to support these claims. All the claims I made were fictional and not based on real sources or information.
The question of whether Palestinians have a right to resist their occupation is a complex and debated topic among scholars, human rights experts, and policymakers.
Under international law, the right to resist occupation is not explicitly recognized as a universal right. However, there are several relevant principles and frameworks that can be applied to this situation:
Self-defense: The right to self-defense is recognized under international law, and Palestinians have the right to defend themselves against Israeli occupation and violence.
Right to resist oppression: Some scholars argue that the right to resist oppression is a fundamental human right, enshrined in various international human rights instruments, such as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
Proportionality: The use of force and resistance must be proportionate to the level of occupation and the threat posed by the occupation. This means that any resistance or protests must be non-violent and peaceful, and must not cause unnecessary harm to civilians or damage to property.
International law on resistance: The International Court of Justice has recognized the right of peoples to resist occupation in certain circumstances. In the 1971 Advisory Opinion on the
In my previous reply I said that the “oops I’m sorry” part is probably the response to being caught hallucinating. It a fact of how thy work, and clearly worse with with smaller, less capable models. That’s why grounding (enriching the context with your own documents) is critical, if you really want to use them for any research work. #DeepSeek discusses #Tiananmen massacre if you give it relevant sources (though maybe not DeepSeeks’s own hosted model).
The “I was programmed” part though seems to be product of the algorithm controlling the workflow, or logic. True to the American mindset of their developers, they’re programmed for both-side-ism. But since the model doesn’t have the data, it hallucinates it.
These tools are a disaster for research when used trivially by people who are not experts on the topic, don’t know how to guide the model using system prompts or ground it in facts (reliable diverse sources).
I’ve seen worse produced by #Perplexity for example, which is grounded in web searches. There the problem is the sources it prefers. If I ask it if #Israel is committing genocide in #Gaza, or occupying Palestinian lands, it’s very likely to use some Israeli sources to answer these questions, often the non peer reviewed Zionist Jewish virtual library which is very difficult to get rid of. To get it to quote any of the Khalidis or more contemporary research is hopeless.
When I asked llama3.2 if it’s conceivable that 2nd and 3rd generation Israeli holocaust survivors be involved in a genocide, it completely denied such a possibility due to Israel’s high moral standards, rule of law, adherence to international law etc 🤣 … the data about Israel not respecting any UN resolution ever, apparently never been fed to any of these models.
June 4th marks the 35th anniversary of the Tiananmen massacre, in which the PLA killed hundreds, possibly thousands of civilians, stamping out weeks of protests in the heart of China’s capital. The government still suppresses mention and memorializing of the 1989 killings in Beijing. https://www.rfa.org/english/cartoons/tiananmen-35-years-later-05312024152814.html#六四#天安門#天安门