Where @[email protected] gets harassed for this comment:
wow, a lot of the propaganda I’ve had shoveled down my gullet all along has just been straight up false, hasn’t it. China was never the ‘bad guy’…
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Better in every metric? Try being Chinese and criticizing the government online, and see what happens to you. That’s a pretty scary metric. The US is fucked right now, but at least there is hope in a democracy, while it lasts. If we ever become a full on totalitarian dystopia like China, it’s over. It makes me sad to think that, with modern surveillance technology, there is probably no way for them to dig themselves out of it at this point.
Try being Muslim and keeping your organs in China.
I’m going to assume he’s imagining the owner of a halal butcher shop quickly selling out all the beef tripe and chicken livers
“All my organs, gone!”
Yeah, I’m not buying the “gee, guys, I used to believe the AmeriKKKa propaganda, but this really makes me think” act. It must work better on the morons in the tankie communities.
i love when they try to turn our own observations on us. seems like they don’t know or care why “why i left the left” is fundamentally different from the realizations every westerner comes to if they choose to research the things they’re raised to believe
All this shit about “muh surveillance” in China like a third of the country isn’t rural as fuck, you could absolutely wage a guerilla war if you wanted to. Chinese people absolutely have political expressions that are contrary to the party line.
Meanwhile, the most surveillanced city by CCTV per Km^2 ?
London.
Wait until USians find out about Flock cameras
I was cautiously optimistic when this first got posted here, but from what I can tell the Chinese government hasn’t actually made this their policy, this is an allegation being made by an Israeli company in a lawsuit about a Chinese company declining to exercise their option to invest in that Israeli company, so unless Xi or somebody comes out with a big move I now think that this is a whole lot of nothing.
edit: oh I see we’re reacting to .world’s comment section here, not the story, lmao
The “Israeli” company is alleging that the Chinese company said they could not continue with a project because they were instructed not to make further investments in “Israel” IIRC, but all of this is third-hand information at least at this point. If it’s true, it’s definitely good. I guess we’ll see.
typical lib-brained “CHINA STILL WORSE” threads on any good thing from China
This is all they have to hold on to as the US descends deeper into overt fascism.
@[email protected] hope for democracy? What the fuck are you talking about mate the democrats are literally supporting ICE and the only difference between the two parties is queer people and women. Every single other issue, literally all of them, both parties are right or far right on. You’re out of your fucking mind.
the only difference between the two parties is queer people and women
Half of the Democrats have already openly thrown trans people under the bus and they did exactly nothing to preserve the right to abortion, so even in those cases the difference isn’t as big as people think.
You gotta support 99% hitler because 100% hitler makes us look bad in the internet
Better in every metric? Try being Chinese and criticizing the government online, and see what happens to you. That’s a pretty scary metric.
Metrics are unquantifiable things that if you did manage to quantify would make China look far better than the US.
Would love to see that metric and compare it to the number of protestors shot in Minneapolis alone
Why is China purging their generals?
US armed forces retired everyone they didnt like pre ww2 as preparation for ww2. are they purging their generals or are they just you know, firing/retiring people who are no longer the best choice for what’s on the horizon? do we know? do we know anything at all or are we just immediately going oh, the greco-romano-judeo-christian culture in me tells me this is sinister?
the world may never know.
The funny bit about that is that the new Trump admin has gotten rid of a lot of people in the military he didn’t like. And even just normal bureaucrats.
Biden fired (“purged”) a number of Trump people as well. He left way too many, though, it was kinda shocking.
The best time to clean house of your general staff is before the fascists are marching over your borderposts. There was, like, a whole thing about why you don’t do what the USSR did and wait until it’s too late
their tyrannical purges vs our pragmatic restructuring
It’s just so pathetic. There’s plenty you can do to criticize the government online and in-person in China (they have protests all the time, for example), but the user has never remotely looked in to this question, they just parrot received wisdom of reddit campfire stories and corporate media dreck. Obviously China has censorship and things like that and obviously some of it is bad, but the absurd generality of “Try being Chinese and criticizing the government online, and see what happens to you. That’s a pretty scary metric.” doesn’t help to advance even real criticism of China, just Cold War outrage at an Other.
Of course, the most meaningful metric of determining whether a country is democratic is if you can call the head of state a doodoo head (which I’m sure people in China are doing regardless)
it must be the best we have otherwise why would we still be quoting the same reagan speech
