Say NO, to Pumpkin Spice Latte 
i think we might need to start forcing people to engage with media made for adults instead of baby animationslop + free graphic design courses for everyone
Yknow, as extreme as this is…it did have me thinking about something. So, in my town orgs do be posting flyers for protests, rallies etc. The anarchists always hsve a circled A and sometimes E somewhere near the header and the trots can’t help but put pegs of Marx and hammers and sickles on flyers. You are owed to be a communist or even anarchist and just…not put that in the ads. Might scare a lot less people off. There was a meeting advertised in my neighborhood as just a normal general consensus gathering meeting for the bullshit development projects going on and an open floor for other concerns. It was just like…some older lady that posted about it, all I did was show up and say some stuff, but like…it was attended and I think its cause it was just done as a concerned neighbor who is seeing the town go to shit.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
This method of attacking PSL is the same method the CIA uses to attack foreign states. They’re building up a giant list to bomb people with “reasons x country is bad so you should support bombing it”, big enough so that it requires several hundred pages to refute. Gish gallop in propaganda form is their preferred method.
Many people won’t even remember the claims, they’ll just remember “PSL bad” and that’s that.
I’ll say a few things:
- Nobody knows where Tigray is. Useless point. Xinjiang is easily refutable at this point and most people are listening to it.
- Coverups and internal drama never happens in the democrats obviously.
- Only idiots will buy that a bunch of queer communists have ever supported fascists.
- Nobody knows who Roy Singham is, including me lmao.
- “De-mobilises protests” oh really? Which ones? Palestine? Anti-ICE? Nah.
Come on feds this is some of your weakest ever work, it can be shut down in less text than exists on the propaganda, do better.
Come on feds this is some of your weakest ever work, it can be shut down in less text than exists on the propaganda, do better.
I actually watched this in action in a group chat I’m in (national chat so I know basically nobody in it).
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new person expresses positive opinion of PSL re: protests
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dude links red flags document (I actually checked this at the time and was like hell no I’m not clicking on a google document link)
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Gets dogpiled by clique of people (like 4-5 in a big chat)
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they start accusing the new person of trolling every time they chime in to any conversation
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eventually gets kicked for refusing to take them seriously
for being very concerned about “high control groups” they were being highly controlling
This only works in chat groups if the owner of the chat group is anti-psl. If the owners of the group are not, then the members of the group are free to defend it with full energy and they get dogpiled.
In the chats owned by someone who’s anti-PSL in the first place, this is much much harder.
On top of that you have the situations where a chat owner is anti-tankie but does not consider PSL to be tankies because only bad people can be tankies and they’ve actually met good people involved with PSL or know of PSL organised events, this makes a sorta brainwormed soup mess but also benefits PSL.
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Nobody knows who Roy Singham is, including me lmao.
AFAIK the intended part of this bit is for people to google him, see he’s a pro-China billionaire who gave PSL and their front orgs $40m, and think that’s bad.
Isn’t a plurality of Americans pro China at this point. Libs that might fall for this don’t necessarily hate billionaires, they like Mark Cuban for instance. And most of them are saying “I trust China with my data more than the USA” when it comes to the TikTok sale.
The target audience of this infographic is definitely the kind of radlib that is extremely proud of how “informed” they are about China’s authoritarianism and feels a sense of smug moral superiority over the other kind of lib/generally-left-wing people who feel that way about China.
When Lenin said the last capitalist would sell us the rope to hang them, I don’t think he envisioned this lmao. Maybe we can keep this one billionaire, as a treat
Bolsheviks literally got donations from Savva Morozov - a factory owner, so Lenin wouldn’t be surprised at all.
There have always been class traitors. Like Engels, for instance.
Come on feds this is some of your weakest ever work, it can be shut down in less text than exists on the propaganda, do better.
When was this made? Syria and Venezuela are basically out of date talking points especially since Assad and Maduro are not even in their respective countries anymore. There’s also a weird emphasis on Ethiopia/Tigray. You would think they would put Iran under the “authoritarian regime” instead of Ethiopia. No mention of Palestine, not even with a “PSL co-opts Palestinian protests” talking point.
Even if you were extremely generous and conceded that all these baseless, vague accusations were true, they’d be significant improvements over the current government.
Like oh no a political party that supports state violence, supports authoritarian regimes, has cult-like behaviours, platforms fascists, has opaque funding and suppresses protests, unlike the current parties which uh… well, uh… all that, but way worse, and way more intensely, and more, extremely evil things, such as constantly doing fucking genocide.
What’s the origin of this image? Was a former Steven Universe artist involved? A fan?
A fan for sure. A former artist would do a better job. No way this was done by a professional artist.
Graphic design is my passion
Oh damn, is PSL actually big enough that they’re on people’s radar for counter propaganda now?
They were apparently instrumental in the success of the 1/23 Minneapolis general strike, and led a lot of the efforts behind last Friday’s (1/30) national shutdown. At the rate they are growing in membership and influence they are becoming a significant enough political force that it is worth fighting back with some cheapo dogshit instagram and twitter posts.
why does this look steven universe
Cause they drew it so that it would look like Steven Universe. Or used AI, I think AI would be more on model.
nah I don’t see any reason to see it as AI, look at how the hands and poses are drawn it’s just made by someone who likes steven universe and isn’t too experienced at drawing, look at the left arm of the girl with the red hijab notice how the area below the elbow just gets smaller, notice all the characters have 5 fingers even if its awkward, also pretty sure some characters are just straight up from the show
I just thought it looked like shit in a hand made way
uses rallies to recruit
Oh god no, turning protests into a productive, larger, organized movement! Don’t these tankies know that the point of protests is to show up, wave your clever sign, and just hope that spontaneously causes the downfall of the bourgeois state?
Syria
I thought radlibs uphold the Syrian “revolution”
They mean supporting Syria when Assad was still around. They were opposed to HTS being given free reign to kill everyone
The Venezuela is also untimely after Maduro got kidnapped. How old is this?
17·17 hours agoIt seems to be from Nov 18, 2024 https://www.instagram.com/p/DChTU4XRq7R/
This “antidotezine” post credits it to the above instagram person: https://spore.social/@antidotezine/113635056855774418
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Gotta be pretty old, cause PSL hasn’t even mentioned Ethiopia in years as far as I can tell, and when they did it was mostly just about how US intervention is wrong (which it always is) and not really anything else? Not in the US or the PSL myself, I was just looking at liberation news to see what they were talking about lol.
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This is a bit off-topic, but may I offer a bit of challenge to your usage of “schizophrenic” when insulting this poorly made infographic? I’m an educator, and I frequently work with people who have schizotypal personality disorder. They’re lovely people who are deeply misunderstood, and often quite radical in their beliefs and their desire for a better society. They should not be considered a shorthand for insulting. I only ask that you consider not punching down when you’re looking to, in fact, punch upward at the liberal status quo andits upholders, the people actually responsible for creating this awful image.
Yeah, schizophrenic here, I don’t like this use of the term.
It also begs the question of how seriously you’re taking your own message: you’re really putting “genocide denialism” in the same style you would use to remind kids that veggies are fun?
Hitting David Duke with the “yikes” millennial stare and a thumbs down after he says he thinks the Holocaust isn’t real but wishes it was.
For real, this looks aimed at 2015 “Tumblr SJW” stereotypes
Who is this for?
It’s to target people who think they’re left but have not yet really made the jump left yet. People who don’t know what a vanguard is, people who don’t know what marxism-leninism is, people that like the word “socialism” but couldn’t really explain it very well, people who will see “socialism and liberation” and be positive rather than negative.
Its just Corporate Memphis (corporate consultant art style) with a Steven Universe twist. Plus it’s being produced by impudent political children, so can’t expect much better.
But seriously – large, well funded, liberal-progressive orgs are making moves in my state to stifle and demobilize the left. Its nothing new, except the struggle is so fucking acute, more people than ever lives are directly at risk because of ice and police violence, meanwhile protests and organizing is bringing more people into the struggle than ever.
To me, looks like that Soros/Ford foundation money is making its way into direct counter organizing of our movements. Stay vigilant!
I agree. The style and tone offends me more than the content.
You can just tell the characters on the poster are just screaming “UNPAINT ME! UNPAINT ME!”
The target audience is Instagram “activists”
There’s a weird anarchist guy (who also does the whole “COVID isn’t over!!” mask-shaming stuff) who comes to a lot of local events and has literal stacks of these flyers that they pass out lmao
(who also does the whole “COVID isn’t over!!” mask-shaming stuff)
Are you actually an anti-masker? Holy fuck
who also does the whole “COVID isn’t over!!” mask-shaming stuff
Elaborate on this. What is “mask-shaming,” because this sounds like minimizer rhetoric. Your orgs should be masking for COVID. Why are they not?
I just heard about this for the first time last week. You’re saying this person goes into public and shames people for wearing masks or not wearing masks? Where I live we had a “susana distancia” for like 6 months and the state I live in never had any kind of mask mandates so I have literally not seen a single mask since 2021. I was surprised to learn there is a movement asking people to wear masks still
Where I live we had a “susana distancia” for like 6 months and the state I live in never had any kind of mask mandates so I have literally not seen a single mask since 2021. I was surprised to learn there is a movement asking people to wear masks still
There is, because COVID is not over, and we need to be mitigating it. Do you seriously think that was enough to quell a global plague with every country utilizing inconsistent mitigation strategies, if any at all? Have you bothered looking at the statistics since then? Do you know what this disease does, and why letting it run rampant is a bad idea? It is not just a “cold” or a “flu,” even with vaccines. Why do you take your government’s word for this phenomenon, but distrust them enough to know about left organizing? This is truly baffling to me.
Do you seriously think that was enough to quell a global plague with every country utilizing inconsistent mitigation strategies, if any at all?
No
Have you bothered looking at the statistics since then?
Also no
Do you know what this disease does, and why letting it run rampant is a bad idea?
I do but I can’t conduct a public health response by myself
Why do you take your government’s word for this phenomenon, but distrust them enough to know about left organizing?
Putting words into my mouth, I just learned about it and am surprised. I support it, cálmate.
I live in the middle of fucking nowhere, in the sierra la esmeraldas. It isn’t really an issue that I have a lot of control of here.
Is it too much to ask for to not contribute to COVID minimization then, if you acknowledge that you’re not familiar with the facts?
No one minimized anything. Disengage. Please block me. I’ve already done so.
I do but I can’t conduct a public health response by myself
How do you think movements start? Someone’s got to do something or nothing changes. Why can that someone not be you?
Also no
I’m not putting words in your mouth, you’re telling me here you have noticed but don’t care enough to do something about it. If you think this is an insurmountable wall to action, I have some bad news about any other sort of political revolution.
The world is a vast place and I’m extremely busy with my family and local issues. I’m sorry I can’t learn about every issue that matters to you right away and that sometimes it takes time to learn and understand things. I’m in my mid 40s and COVID wasn’t a big part of my life especially location I live in. I actually support your position but the two people that immediately started hammering my inbox was actually frustrating.
You are agitated about this and this conversation is unproductive. Disengage. Please block me. I’ve already done so.
The hexbear disengage rule doesn’t include having the final word on a matter. The only text in your reply should be the word disengage
I am agitated because indifference like yours kills people like me, and continues to do so to this day. Block me yourself.
I mean, I was in the other thread where you were talking about this and replied to one of your comments with a FAQ site. COVID is still a thing and it’s very reasonable to continue taking precautions.
If you actually read my comment I was asking if he was shaming people for wearing or not wearing masks and explained how I just learned about it. I thought about it a bit more and I guess combined with Covid is not over it is probably shaming for not wearing masks but English isn’t really my primary language except typing and for work.
Oh yes, I’m sure the lib who made this completely supports the Maoist resistance of the Tigray People’s Liberation Front
I mean the CIA has certainly shown support for the TPLF in the past decade, so that filters down into domestic lib support. But you’re right in that it’s liberals claiming support for things they barely know about. Like I could probably get the average lib to announce support for the Tamil Tigers or the Shining Path if I say PSL has also been critical of them.
“Defends authoritarian regimes” - list of good guys lmao
Yesterday I went to get cigarettes and cash for the bus after work. Guy at the register was struggling with a $10 bill in the counterfeit reader and grumbling about hating technology sometimes.
Of course I could not help myself so I said, yeah ne too and asked him if he knew about the luddites.
One thing leads to another and I basically ended up having the kind of talk we have here all the time.
Quick Stop gas station kid if you’re on here yep, we hate the word authoritarianism too.
TLDR the kids might be alright, he was way ahead of where I was at his age.
Guy at the register was struggling with a $10 bill in the counterfeit reader
It’s these little snippets that non USAians just happen to come across and go wtf
