IRC log of eo on 2014-01-31

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Zakim, this will be 3694

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Meeting: Education and Outreach Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 31 January 2014

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Chair: Shawn

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Scribe: Sharron

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Regrets: Vicki, Suzette (Howard and Andrew maybe)

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Regrets+ Wayne

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Regrets+ Helle

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Topic: wiki update

13:32:57 [Sharron]

Shawn: Did anyone notice that W3C systems changed the wiki. In my case, my preferences changed. It dropped me from the watch list. If you have pages on watch, you might want to look at that. Any questions about how that works?

13:33:18 [Sharron]

...I would encourage everyone to put pages that interest you on the watch list.

13:33:26 [Zakim]

+Andrew

13:33:37 [Sharron]

...also, the visual design was a bit different.

13:34:01 [yatil]

Blockquote CSS is missing which is very unfortunate…

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AnnaBelle: I noticed the change and mostly since it was unexpected, I was a bit disoriented. But now I am thinking it may actually be a bit easier to read.

13:34:30 [Sharron]

Shawn: We may tweek the CSS

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Paul: The text editor changed

13:34:59 [Sharron]

Shawn: Yes, I am going to look at how to make it work a bit better for us.

13:35:10 [Sharron]

...let me know if anyone wants to help with that

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Topic: EasyChecks Illustrations

13:35:32 [shawn]

https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks_-_Illustrations

13:36:00 [shawn]

Illustration inventory https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks_-_Illustrations#Illustration_inventory

13:36:14 [Sharron]

AnnaBelle: A few things have happened in the last week. I went through all the illustrations, the text holders, and the places where we needed palce holders

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13:36:49 [Andrew]

s/palce /place

13:36:58 [Sharron]

...I out all of those into the wiki. Then we had a call on Wed trying to figure out what to do next and who will do them.

13:37:33 [Sharron]

...Shawn will do the code, Andrew will do the captions, I will do the images other than the IE WAT images, which Vicki will do.

13:37:40 [AnnaBelle]

https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks_-_Illustrations#Strategy

13:37:41 [Sharron]

...we did another change to the strategies

13:38:05 [Zakim]

+Anthony

13:38:28 [Sharron]

...We decided to use null alt text since all of the images are explained in the text and some will have captions if needed. Denis noted that change and agreed with it.

13:38:48 [Sharron]

Sharron: Only want to add that AB is awesoem for leading on this

13:39:06 [Andrew]

s/awesoem /awesome

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Shawn: I am glad that Vicki has responded so well. She may be able to do more.

13:40:16 [Sharron]

AnnaBelle: She is very responsive to feedback and we are working well together. Next check in with more will be MOnday or Tuesday of next week. I think they are in good shape. There is a bit of work, but it seems do-able

13:41:08 [Sharron]

Sharron: Does tha mean that we should go ahead and plan for the usability testing at CSUN?

13:41:21 [Sharron]

Shawn: Yes we have a place to do that in the wiki

13:41:25 [shawn]

Put thoughts on UT at https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks#Usability_Testing

13:42:15 [Sharron]

Shawn: And we have a couple of comments and suggested wording tweek from Eric. Andrew, you have a related action, can you get to that?

13:42:53 [Sharron]

...Paul, I see you added the Mac stuff here. Let's talk about that next week.

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Paul: Yes, I was disappointed that there is so much to do

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Shawn: Since we just got this and haven't had time to review, we will discuss next week.

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Topic: CSUN attendence

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Jan: Sunday OK, and Tuesday afternoon

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Anthony: Monday, Tuesday for sure. Am trying for Sunda but not sure yet

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Shawn: We are all very excited to meet you

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Paul: I can't be there on Sunday either, but Monday and Tuesday are OK

13:45:30 [Sharron]

Shawn: Shadi, Eric and I have discussed and will post a draft agenda soon

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Topic: WCAG-EM Review

13:45:41 [shawn]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2014JanMar/0022.html

13:45:54 [shawn]

s/post a draft agenda soon/post a draft agenda soon for EOWG discussion/

13:47:05 [Sharron]

Shawn: WCAG-EM WG have done some changes, we did another round of comments and they ahve changed again. As of now, they are thinking this is the final draft. After the next round of comments, they will publish as a WG Note

13:47:24 [Sharron]

...so this may be our last chance to comment

13:48:09 [Sharron]

...we do not expect many changes to this. Anthony I thought this is something that you would be good at with your background. Can you review and comment on this?

13:48:25 [Sharron]

Anthony: Yes, I would do that

13:48:37 [shawn]

comments to go in https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/WCAG-EM_review

13:49:17 [Sharron]

Shawn: Can you do this be Feb 12?

13:49:29 [Sharron]

Anthony: Yes that is good, I can do that.

13:49:45 [Sharron]

Shawn: Please add to your list of to do items in the wiki

13:50:02 [Sharron]

Sharron: I am going to look at it again.

13:50:23 [Sharron]

Shawn: ..and I will ask Helle and Sylvie

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WCAG-EM Overview: http://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/conformance

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s/and I will ask Helle and Sylvie/Helle and Sylvie would be good/

13:52:09 [Sharron]

Sharron: Are they communicating well enough the fact that it is a methodology, not a how-to. On first reading you often wish for more detail.

13:52:45 [Sharron]

Shawn: Will update wiki page and put a place for that

13:52:49 [Zakim]

-Andrew

13:53:27 [Andrew]

Skype just died - I'll try and call back in asap

13:53:30 [Sharron]

Shawn: Let's have a goal for all comments by Feb 12 so we have time to review and submit as EO

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Topic: Other doc review

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Shawn: The WCAG Techniques and Understanding documents...Wayne and Sylvie volunteered, I will look at that too.

13:55:13 [Sharron]

...next was Media Requirements, Andrew and Paul?

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Paul: Will do today

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Topic: UAAG Review:

13:56:00 [Andrew]

I'll take a fresh look at that

13:56:01 [shawn]

https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/UAAG_review

13:56:12 [shawn]

zakim, who is on the phone?

13:56:12 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Sharron, Shawn, Jan, PaulSchantz, AnnaBelle, Anthony

13:56:50 [Sharron]

Shawn: Thanks to Sylvie for her comments and Sharron and Andrew for their response.

13:57:32 [Sharron]

Shawn: Did anyone else want to comment before we send those in?

13:57:44 [Sharron]

...if not, I will submit today.

13:59:26 [Zakim]

+Andrew

13:59:58 [Sharron]

Shawn: That's all on today's agenda, let's chack in with a work plan for next week. There are several documents to review, Paul and Andrew will be doing that. AnnaBelle and Vicki will be working on the illustrations. Next week or the week after we will ahve the tutorials schedule...so I propose that we close early today so people can use this time so the group participants can catch up on actions

13:59:58 [Sharron]

and get the slate cleared for next month when we have lots to do with review tutorials

14:00:55 [Sharron]

...Eric has been working on the visual design for the overall tutorials. We want also to get the Images Tutorial out (several other groups want that as well)

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...anything else for today?

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AnnaBelle: Just thanks to all who are helping with the illustrations

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Shawn: It's great to have your leadership on this AB!

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...we will be looking at what is the next focus for the group as we wrap up EasyChecks. WAI-ACT Project includes an implementation plan, Vicki had started some work on that

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Sharron: Timing will be good to look at various projects at CSUN

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Shawn: Yes, when we talk as a group about the agenda, it would be useful to know who will be there at what times. Does anyone have concerns about putting who will be there on which day on the agenda?

14:06:09 [Sharron]

...generally F2F meetings are open to active participants, we can also use the time as an outreach effort as well. So think about whether we want to encourage participation from new members.

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-Jan

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-PaulSchantz

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-AnnaBelle

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...so please use the time today to work on action items, thanks all.

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-Anthony

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-Andrew

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-Shawn

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trackbot, end meeting

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Zakim, list attendees

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As of this point the attendees have been Sharron, Shawn, Jan, PaulSchantz, AnnaBelle, Andrew, Anthony

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-Sharron

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WAI_EOWG()8:30AM has ended

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Attendees were Sharron, Shawn, Jan, PaulSchantz, AnnaBelle, Andrew, Anthony

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