Jane Campion would like to apologize. โ€œI didnโ€™t get back to you that weekend because I got sick,โ€ she says. โ€œI got food poisoning.โ€ Campion isnโ€™t talking to her publicist or a manager. Nor is she addressing one of the dozens of Netflix handlers who have been by her side continuously since last September as sheโ€™s flown all over the world โ€” unveiling her latest opus, โ€œThe Power of the Dog,โ€ at film festivals and to Oscar voters.

No, the person who Campion ghosted over email is … Guillermo del Toro. Since the two of them are about to talk about their latest movies โ€” just days after del Toro has put the final touches on a big-budget remake of the noir thriller โ€œNightmare Alley,โ€ based on the 1946 novel by William Lindsay Gresham, and hours ahead of the filmโ€™s New York premiere โ€” this could get awkward. But fortunately, the Oscar-winning director is not the least bit offended.

โ€œI want to get food poisoning too,โ€ del Toro quips while patting his belly. โ€œItโ€™s the only way I can lose weight.โ€

Not even the most meal-conscious cinephile could resist what Campion and del Toro have cooked up over their careers. After Campion took a decade-long break from film work โ€” a list of credits that includes โ€œThe Piano,โ€ โ€œThe Portrait of a Ladyโ€ and โ€œIn the Cutโ€ โ€” so she could focus on the TV series โ€œTop of the Lake,โ€ sheโ€™s returned with a vengeance. โ€œThe Power of the Dog,โ€ the story of two brothers (played by Benedict Cumberbatch and Jesse Plemons) and the woman (Kirsten Dunst) who comes between them, is ostensibly a Western, but itโ€™s more interested in depicting a portrait of corrosive masculinity and repression. And del Toro, having swept the Oscars with 2017โ€™s โ€œThe Shape of Water,โ€ could find himself at the podium again with โ€œNightmare Alley,โ€ a noirish tale of a carnival huckster (Bradley Cooper) whose relentless pursuit of wealth โ€” and women (Rooney Mara and Cate Blanchett) โ€” ends in tragedy.

Like โ€œThe Power of the Dog,โ€ โ€œNightmare Alleyโ€ transcends its genre to expose the rotting core at the heart of the American dream. The two longtime mutual admirers are meeting to discuss their films for the benefit of Varietyย Directorsย onย Directorsย presented by MGM Studios and United Artists Releasing, which is being filmed for posterity (an element that Campion, who hates to be photographed, is none too thrilled about).

โ€œI wish we could just have our talk without all the cameras,โ€ she confesses to del Toro. โ€That would be much more fun.โ€

Despite her nerves, Campion warms up quickly around the ebullient del Toro, talking about everything from the rise of streaming services to Jungian dream analysis. All of it culminates with del Toro inviting her to the world premiere of โ€œNightmare Alleyโ€ in New York that night. But she has her own โ€œPower of the Dogโ€ screening to attend at the same time, a reminder of the grueling demands of Oscar campaigning.