• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    I’ve had so many people try to convince me that Israel is like a western country with similar amount of rights and freedom.

    Bahahahaha

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      Give it a bit of time…the assholes like Stephen Miller are trying to implement isreales fascism in the USA as quickly as they can

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      Which western country do you live in that you don’t need to hand over your passport and occasionally answer a few questions when going through customs?

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        In most Western countries they ask for it, receive it, spend a second or two inspecting it and then (and this is the crucial bit that appears to be missing in the case of Israel and other police states) hand it back to you.

        Same goes for the questions when going through customs: a couple boilerplate “are you a terrorist whose mom packed your luggage with contraband produce and bottles of water” questions do not an interrogation make.

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          Uh… they were handed back their passports, they did leave the country after all.

          Something you have to understand about Tucker is he says things in a way that’s technically true, but extremely exaggerated and leaves out details and lets his audience’s prejudices fill in the gaps. He was at the airport to leave the country sometime after doing an interview. Technically his passport was taken (by a customs official) after and interview (when he went to the airport).

          The headline leads you to think he did an interview and some Mossad agents took his passport and put him under some hot lights and interrogated him for hours. Why did they neglect to mention that someone at the airport took his passport as he was going through customs? Because you’d know the context and wouldn’t make assumptions based on your prejudices.

          These are the tactics anti-semites use to pull people into their bullshit. And you seem very willing to go along with it.

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        hand over your passport and occasionally answer a few questions

        Questions about one’s stay in the country are not the same questions this guy was facing. You’re reaching, here.

        And I get that it’s Mr Carlson, who is a bit of a dick, but if they’ll detain him, they’ll detain many others.

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          Do you know the questions they were asked? Talk about reaching.

          Why are you so ready to believe the word of an anti-semite?

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            Anti-Semite is going the way of terrorist

            Its so overplayed, oversold and abused in so many ways, so often, that its almost meaningless now. And is mostly just a clear, intentional and abusive manipulation tactic to protect perpetrators from some shit they did and should 1000% be held accountable for.

            Either you strait up hate Jews and that goes past anti Semite or it doesnt even apply to the conversation

            Your not wrong about tucker exaggerating shit but fuck you for this you this tactical manipulation as if were all too dumb to see that shit.

            Its such a bitch move

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        wHiCh WeStErN cOuNtRy Do YoU lIvE iN tHaT yOu DoN’t NeEd To HaNd OvEr YoUr PaSsPoRt AnD oCcAsIoNaLlY aNsWeR a FeW qUeStIoNs WhEn GoInG tHrOuGh CuStOmS?

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            nope. its a common enough thing that it’s referenced on wikipedia:

            I was imitating you as a way of communicating how stupid you sound :D hope that helps.

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    I liked the Breaking News about Kid Rock’s financial woes. Tucker and Kid can both eat poop, lousy racist bastards.

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    What a fucking dickhead.

    Won’t be surprised if the orange ogre goes on the hotline with Yahoo to get him free, 'cause he doesn’t want to lose one of his favorite minions.

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    I’m curious if this gets other rightwing dipshits to turn on Trump when he inevitably does fuck-all about Tucker being arrested.

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          The article said he is critical of Israel.

          This is the first time I’m hearing about it honestly. Does he call it a genocide?

          Why would he go there for an interview? Usually journalists go to cover what’s happening to the Palestinian people, otherwise you could just have a remote call. But then again, he is not a journalist.

          Something tells me he wanted to cause some friction.

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            He promotes the white replacement theory which is all about the Jews bringing in immigrants to replace the white race. aka White Genocide

            So he believes a genocide is being done by Jews. Pretty sure he doesn’t give a fuck about Palestinians tho.

            And yeah he wanted to cause friction, he’s an Anti-Semite.

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      I hate everyone here. It’s win-win, I think.

      Israel probably sees some connection to Iran and Russia, which to me has been obvious for a very long time.

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        I wonder if Tucker interviewed a prominent Israeli that disagrees with the government and this is their way of preventing it from being aired.

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      You are ok with Israel killing the person on the right wing that exposed Israel’s involvement in Epstein, and the Kirk assassination?

      Not so good for further right wing defectors from the party that. Personally, I don’t support Israel killing American Citizens, even if I don’t like them. I also appreciate allies on an issue even if I don’t like them, or agree with them on everything.

      If we don’t cooperate on what we agree on, and stop listening to people telling us to reject allies that aren’t pure enough, told to us by the worst people in the world, then those worst people in the world continue to win.

      Israel is winning, because we condemn defectors that come out against Israel because they aren’t perfect.

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        Tucker shifted when the wind changed; don’t give him more credit than he deserves. This is a guy that sells stories about demons and he’s never exposed a crime in his life.

        That said nobody is rooting for Israel here. So its unclear who you think needs to hear what you’re saying but its not anyone here.

        Tucker is a guy who selectively edited out kanye west saying some abominable shit in an attempt to gaslight viewers into thinking kanye wasn’t celebrating hitler. There’s a good chance he just straight up broke some laws and let a holocaust joke fly or something.

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          he’s never exposed a crime in his life.

          Oh come on he talks a lot about all the crimes that the bidens and Obamas did do/are currently doing. You know all the crimes, the crimes he keeps just calling crimes and never enumerating or identifying specifically. Those crimes that surely did really super doper did happen.

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        You are ok with Israel killing the person on the right wing that exposed Israel’s involvement in Epstein, and the Kirk assassination?

        He did no such thing. He’s just an antisemitic blowhard who makes up and spreads conspiracy theories and white supremacist hate for a living.

        When the fascist apartheid regime he hates for all the wrong reasons turns out to be guilty of anything he’s accusing them of, that’s not him “exposing” anything, that’s him getting lucky.

        Not so good for further right wing defectors from the party

        He’s not that either. He may be outwardly “rebelling” on some topics, but he’s very much still a part of the fascist club.

        If we don’t cooperate on what we agree on, and stop listening to people telling us to reject allies that aren’t pure enough, told to us by the worst people in the world, then those worst people in the world continue to win

        Except that’s not at all what’s going on here.

        Tucker Carlson doesn’t oppose Israel because he recognizes that Palestinians are human beings. He opposes Israel because he doesn’t believe Jewish people are human beings and conflates them with Israel.

        You’re never going to stop a genocide by pointing out what a good ally someone is for being bigoted towards the people committing it.

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          Very convenient every person that goes against Israel on the left is labeled anti salmon, which, so are you by the way. The same people making that charge also charge you for it. Divide and conquer. It feels hopeless trying to talk sense to people manipulated by organized interests while we disparately are turned against our allies.

          As if we had already won you are riding around on your high horse about “stopping a genocide” spending your time attacking the only ones on the right that have stood against it, an act of bravery at great personal and reputational cost, as you chalk it up to malign motives, as if that should fucking matter right now.

          You know who has even worse motives? Israel. Their superfans and backers. The Evangelicals. I’m sure you will pull together enough support to stop Israel and their fascist designs, on america not just their own area, by working with the ones deemed pure enough. But you aren’t pure enough either by the same people that manipulated you into rejecting allies for lack of purity.

          Grow the fuck up and look past your fucking hand, both hands, including the one stroking yourself off furiously about your moral superiority. If we listen to you, we lose.

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            we disparately are turned against our allies.

            Tucker Carlson is your ally?

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            Very convenient every person that goes against Israel on the left is labeled anti salmon, which, so are you by the way

            Nope, it’s actually very INconvenient that Zionists conflate anti-zionism with antisemitism.

            That you would accuse me of doing the same thing in your defense of an ACTUAL antisemitic bigot who you claim to be my natural ally is absolutely laughable.

            As if we had already won you are riding around on your high horse about “stopping a genocide”

            Yeah, because FSM forbid that I focus on what the enemy is doing that I oppose rather than hyperfocusing on who opposes the enemy while ignoring almost everything these “allies” say, including their own stated reasons for their opposition 🙄

            spending your time attacking the only ones on the right that have stood against it, an act of bravery at great personal and reputational cost

            Could you please get the bigot-cock out of your mouth for just one second? It’s hard to hear you over the slurping noises.

            as you chalk it up to malign motives

            To quote Maya Angelou, when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

            as if that should fucking matter right now.

            It very much does. It has never been easier to find prominent allies willing to speak up against Israel for the right reasons than it is right now.

            Aligning ourselves with the likes of Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, Perjury Greene, and other bigots doesn’t get us anywhere closer to winning anything. It just gived Zionists an excellent opening for tarring us with the same brush.

            You know who has even worse motives? Israel. Their superfans and backers

            Nah, they’re about equal, as far as motives go.

            The Evangelicals

            Fun fact: that group very much includes Tucker Carlson, a fundamentalist Christian who claims with a straight face that he was attacked in his sleep by a literal demon.

            I’m sure you will pull together enough support to stop Israel and their fascist designs, on america not just their own area, by working with the ones deemed pure enough

            As far as purity tests go, “do you think that all Jewish people are secretly plotting against white Christians” is pretty damn entry level…

            But you aren’t pure enough either by the same people that manipulated you into rejecting allies for lack of purity.

            Nope. There you go again. I embrace anti-zionism while rejecting antisemitism and other bigotry. That REALLY shouldn’t be so hard to understand.

            Grow the fuck up and look past your fucking hand, both hands, including the one stroking yourself off furiously about your moral superiority.

            Wow, the projection is strong with this one 🤦

            If we listen to you, we lose

            Right back at you, buddy!

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    Back in my day detaining an American citizen on BS charges was a big deal. Now its a bit of a joke and our government does whatever israel wants anyway. Even though I dont wish Tucker Carlson well, clearly israel knows they can cuck us all on the world stage, while also running the Epstein operation, and we’ll do nothing beyond sending them more money and bombs-- and throw them red carpet heroes welcomes when they come visit.

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          He called out Epstein as an Israeli honeypot, told his viewers they were blackmailing people to further their interests. Also I believe Kirk’s killing, Israel and their allies were involved, which is true also, he came out about that.

          So I wouldn’t be so quick to concentrate on his negatives but we are dumb as shit and without leaders so naturally we let organized interests lead us to spend our time criticizing the people that came out against our leaders for lack of purity, and not work with them against those leaders, that are winning.

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            Tucker Carlson is the rich boy heir to the Swanson corporation and spends his time sucking Putin’s dick on Fox News. The entire Hydroxychloroquine scam originated on his show, he brought in a crypto scammer to push a fake study and then Trump parroted it to the nation causing not only a shortage of the drug for people with Lupus but countless studies and investments of public funding to stockpile something that proved to INCREASE FATALITY when used to treat covid.

            Going solely by the numbers, Tucker might have actually hurt or killed many more people than Epstein.

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      theres a master and a servant. Tucker is a member of the servant group (along with every other American) and will be treated accordingly. It doesnt matter so much if he’s left or right wing. The Israelis couldnt care less what political groups the livestock align themselves as-- why should they care? They bought both parties.

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      So it’s somehow bad now to want bad things to happen to bad people? Color me a MAGAt then.

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        No, it’s more that it’s dumb to not take a breath and discuss why this is happening. Tucker may have hit a nerve, like him or not.

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          If he hit a nerve it was by platforming actual antisemitism, which only serves to further muddy the waters amid all the bad-faith accusations of antisemitism towards anyone who thinks a genocidal government regime is, like, not a good thing.

          I really don’t think there is any common cause to be found with a fellow like this, and the most likely outcome of this detention is that he will probably abruptly change his tune on Israel. And he may have some light internal bleeding.

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          We know why this happened though. America, under Trump (and not really corrected under Biden), sold off their soft power, allowing other countries to walk all over us intentionally. And it’s only going to get worse under further Republican control. Meanwhile, Democrats have taken the mantle of neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism, so unless we suddenly elect an entirely progressive government and start to work towards normalizing foreign relationships, the kidnappings will continue.

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      Kayfabe is real, people know it is, they engage with it anyway because they want to have fun playing around with stories and narratives and we’ve all learned that we can make our own reality and get some level of social support for it.

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      I get ya, I’m not celebrating and imo this is bad.

      Buuut, in all fairness he chose to go there assuming Israel isn’t the big baddy everyone says they are.

      So more like leopards eating faces scenario which imo is justified.

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        assuming Israel isn’t the big baddy everyone else says they are

        Nah, in fact he probably went there hoping Israel would do something like this. Tucker has turned against Israel and has even been making connections with them and Epstein. This will only give him street cred in the rising anti Israel nationalist right.

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      I think it’s the irony of seeing fascism take itself out. It’s like seeing two bullies fighting each other and Tucker literally helped build the leopard as well.

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      Bingo.

      Be prepared for a barrage of downvotes tho as team blue is the only correct side to be supporting, according to lemmitors here.