Found this graph online for anyone who might still be confused. I think this makes it much more clear.

  • mercEnglish
    10524·
    4 天前

    Bernie isn’t far left by international standards, but I wouldn’t put him in the centre. Nobody in the centre is trying to make radical changes to things. What Bernie is proposing is pretty radical compared to where the US currently is. And, I think if those reforms actually passed, he’d still be trying to move things even more to the left.

    And Biden as “far right”? It has lost all meaning if you’re applying that label to him.

    • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netEnglish
      5018·
      4 天前

      Idk. Simping for a fascist ethnostate sure doesn’t seem left to me.

      … and it’s just a meme, homie.

      • Balex@lemmy.worldEnglish
        238·
        4 天前

        It usually takes more than one thing to label somebody left or right.

        And “it’s just a meme” is how we ended up with a meme in office twice.

        • darthelmet@lemmy.worldEnglish
          155·
          4 天前

          Do you realize how insane our politics are for people to think of supporting a genocide as just one thing on a list of policies?

          • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netEnglish
            131·
            4 天前

            Yo, the only reason Hitler is considered right-wing, because he wanted to lead the German nation to prosperity. Stop purity-testing!

            /s (in case it’s not obvious)

        • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netEnglish
          102·
          4 天前

          Genocide Joe still was a right-wing politician. With his hwole political legacy.

          … wait a second… you think Trump became president, because of leftists not con&idering the Dems anything but right wing? Lol.

    • AppleTea@lemmy.zipEnglish
      195·
      4 天前

      He stopped a rail worker strike for safer working conditions, then six moths latter there was a massive derailment and an environmental catastrophe in Ohio. You would call that left?

      • frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zipEnglish
        11·
        3 天前

        Biden was a pro-business Blue. I’d put him a couple steps left of center for his green energy initiatives though.

        I think politics is a bit of a spectrum in reality, so not everything politicians do fit nicely on a left/red bar chart when we’re trying to talk about where they stand.

        • AppleTea@lemmy.zipEnglish
          41·
          2 天前

          All his green initiatives were catering to private business though. Tax breaks and subsidies with little conditional restraints. If you want left wing green energy initiatives, look at how China does it.

    • Kühlschrank@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      4 天前

      Yeah they sacrificed nuance for effect - but the scale tipping to the right is still effective. A more informative version with brief explanations of what ‘center’ and ‘left’ and etc. are would be great too.