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  • shawn1122
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    Kerala India achieved developed nation level performance on HDI (human development index) indices in a few short decades with expansive land and policy reforms under a democratically elected communist party.

    Communism is an extremely effective tool at shaking off feudalistic old world tendencies but, as a system, it is extremely economically handicapped in a world where the wealthiest nations are capitalist.

    Which is why China has had to adopted a hybrid “state capitalism” / mercantilism to achieve its rapid economic ascent.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      The PRC is socialist, public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes control the state. Communism is a post-socialist mode of production that has not existed yet.

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      China is not “state capitalist” or mercantilist. Its a socialist market economy with a limited / restricted private sector, where the publicly owned portion dominates the economy, and private capital is not allowed to rise to the level of political power.

      • The backbone of the economy is state ownership and socialist planning. 24 / 25 of the top revenue companies are state-owned and planned. 70% of the top 500 companies are State-owned. 1, 2 The largest bank, construction, electricity, and energy companies in the world, are CPC controlled entities, subject to the 5 year plans laid out by the central committee.
      • Workplace democracy in action in the CPC.
      • Is modern day china communist? Is it staying true to communist values?
      • Didn’t China go Capitalist with Deng Xiaoping? Didn’t it liberalize its economy? Is China’s drastic decrease in poverty a result of the increase in free market capitalist policies?
      • Is the CPC committed to communism?
      • The Long Game and Its Contradictions. Audiobook
      • The myth of Chinese state capitalism. Did Deng really betray Chinese socialism?
      • Tsinghua University- Is Socialism with Chinese Characteristics real socialism, or is it state Capitalism?
      • Isn’t China revisionist for having a capitalist sector of the economy, and working with capitalists? Why isn’t it fully planned like the USSR was?
      • Castro on why both China and Vietnam are socialist countries.
      • Roderic Day - China has billionaires.
      • What is socialism with Chinese characteristics (SWCC)?
      • How is SWCC not revisionist? How is it any different from Gorbachev’s market reforms?, 2
      • Domenico Losurdo - is China state capitalist?, 2
      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        To add to that, the whole idea of state capitalism is a bit of a misnomer. It basically says that while you have state owned enterprise, the internal capitalist relations within it remain largely the same. While that’s true, there is a fundamental difference here. Capitalism is a system where people who own capital hire workers to exploit there labor with the purpose of increasing their capital. The goal of capitalist enterprise is to create wealth for the owners with any social benefits being strictly incidental. On the other hand, the purpose of state enterprise is to provide social value. Workers in state owned companies are producing things that the society needs. They are working for their own benefit and those of others around them. Therefore, the nature of work itself is fundamentally different from actual capitalism.

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        Thanks for that. Always interested in hearing different perspectives.

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          No probs!

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