• join@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    solve the problems that cause people to vote afd, not by drowning more people in the mediterranean, but by tackling their economic precarity.

    sadly the capitalist-centrist alliance is not capable of this, economic precarity makes great workers.

    also institute a general cordon sanitaire against the afd, don’t allow cdu to make the false equivalence between afd and die linke.

    again, very hard for the capitalist-centrist alliance, die linke is namely the only party that actually posed a threat to them.

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      die linke is namely the only party that actually posed a threat to them.

      Unfortunately not. They increased the popularity of die linke on short notice to get the BSW out of the parliament. The BSW is the threat.

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          Doesn’t matter to the elite. They move the ownership of capital to foreign foundations. Vermögenssteuer is for the middle class, for people with millions who only appear rich thanks to inflation.

          Die linke only demands what sounds revolutionary. Same with Mietendeckel, they are used by the elite to secure their monopolies with regulations to prevent competition. Only competition would bring prices down for everybody. Die linke must know better.

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      17 hours ago

      Surely you can’t believe the current economic situation in Germany is worse than in the 1990s - especially in East Germany?

      The reasons people vote for racist parties is well-understood, and it has nothing to do with “economic” issues. The big difference between the 1990s and today is that the media are nowadays flooded with racist propaganda, whereas back then the media landscape was still dominated by public media and intellectuals. People are not any more racist than they were back then, but people didn’t usually vote according to racist beliefs (aside from a handful of NPD voters) since public debate was dominated by non-racist issues. So it is precisely the opposite - economic issues have become less important to voters.

      The way to defeat this surge of fascism is to start adequately regulating (social) media, for example by banning astroturfing and medical misinformation and holding those who host such content accountable.

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        whereas back then the media landscape was still dominated by public media and intellectuals.

        The funding still is. That the public broadcasters aren’t intellectual is up to them, the politicians who control them and the voters who vote for them.

        That the public media supported Youtube and didn’t create a free alternative is up to them and the politicians. It could be incompetence but to me it is malice.

        The AfD is a product of weaponized neglect. The fight against their facism is used to bind all resources which helps to establish another fascism, run by the established elite.

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          The “funding” comes from advertisement on social media, which is the dominant way people, especially those most likely to fall victim to propaganda, consume news. Sure, public media still exist, but they are far less relevant.

          This isn’t about “alternatives,” it’s about a failure to adequately regulate. Imagine if Der Spiegel posts an anonymous article - without verifying the identity of the author - alleging that Jews are coming to enslave your children. Yet this situation is exactly what social media are currently like, and the kind of content that spreads on there like a cancer.

          It’s tempting to find the good in other people, and if they vote for obvious racists, there must be something to it other than racism. And while people are not innately evil, the vast majority can be easily manipulated by the forces of evil weaponizing people’s lowest instincts. It is those forces that should be tackled at the root, instead of letting them run rampant and ineffectively trying to quench the fires they start.

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            Das Gesamtvolumen der Werbeausgaben soll laut Statista bis 2025 auf 718,4 Mio. € steigen – und bis 2029 sogar auf 960,4 Mio.

            https://www.influencer-marketing.de/the-state-of-german-influencer-marketing-report-2025/

            Haushalte und Firmen zahlen in Deutschland einen monatlichen Rundfunkbeitrag. Für 2024 wurden jetzt die Einnahmen bekannt gegeben: Mit insgesamt 8,74 Milliarden Euro sind sie um etwa 260 Millionen Euro gesunken.

            https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/finanzen/ertrag-rundfunkbeitrag-100.html

            Looks to me like influencer receive €1 billion while the public broadcasters receive €8 billion.

            Many influencer also oppose the fascists.

            The public broadcasters have the resources but they waste them. I can’t believe in so much incompetence. The elite wants the popularity of the AfD, without them gaining an absolute majority.

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              You’re missing the point, and not comparing apples to apples (influencers are only a small segment of the ad market; public broadcasters do much more than report news).

              Yes, those €8 billion could be spent more effectively from the perspective of tackling fascism by stooping down to their level and flooding the waves with propaganda against fascism. This is not the situation we should want.

              As long as public media remain committed to (trying to) reporting in a balanced way - as they should! - it can never compete with fascist propaganda that is not afraid to willfully lie. It is the fascist propaganda that must be tackled at its root.

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                influencers are only a small segment of the ad market

                They are:

                Der deutsche Werbemarkt wächst 2025 um knapp 5 Prozent auf 30,9 Mrd. Euro Netto-Werbeumsatz.

                The quoted number above should be their share.

                Yes, those €8 billion could be spent more effectively

                Must be spent! By law that’s why they are collected. Not spending them on political education is the first step towards propaganda.

                flooding the waves with propaganda against fascism. This is not the situation we should want.

                That’s not the best way to handle it. Truthful education would have prevented the current situation.

                As long as public media remain committed to (trying to) reporting in a balanced way - as they should! - it can never compete with fascist propaganda that is not afraid to willfully lie.

                Balanced is already giving an equal share to lies. They have to tell how it is. If people trust them then lies lose their power.

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      Indeed, mainstream parties are captured by the rich and both reconciling the public to having the rich take from their shares, and the government chipping away at their freedom and putting them all under the boot of the state.

      The only protest vote is the far right, and they are now supported by the US and Russia behind the scenes. They will win, sooner or later, and the US will help affix themselves in power so they never lose it, as they are able. The rot in the state(s) and institutions is so deep there is little to stop them, and no one willing to fight for the system that is already corrupted and getting worse every cycle.

      All while mainstream politicians continue on like it’s 1990 selling out people to powerful interests to steal their lunch and freedom, suppressing any popular reform in their ranks as if they can continue as they have been indefinitely.

      They learn nothing, the experts are paid by the super rich, and are the last ones we can trust on anything, let alone elections and political leadership. Only a fool doesn’t see it at this point though, no matter how many suits tell us to not believe our own lying eyes.

      Either we give voters popular reform, or the far right, backed by the US and Russian covertly and overtly, will. And their populism is fake, misdirecting anger from the rich onto scapegoats.

      Don’t discount the support of the US in putting them over the top, it’s a dire situation if we allow mainstream parties to continue on as is, concentrating on bringing the trojan horses (and redesigned trojan sheep as in age checks,) of age controls and chatcontrol that tech left outside the walls of liberal democracy in.

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    1 day ago

    No, what you need to do is learn the techniques employed in the American theatre.

    First, send strong but inconsistent wording against the fascists.

    Second, side with the fascists at every opportunity as that will ruin them in the polls later.

    Third, profit greatly.

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      Don’t worry, our conservatives (and social democrats) are already pursuing this plan.

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    24 hours ago

    I dont know - what the author describes seems a little far-fetched with the date and location. You will possibly find for every week of the year something that happened in Nazi Germany. Thuringia is a AFD stronghold and Erfurt is simply Its Capital so location makes sense for them.

    And as the author mentions, its not even the same city nor the same date….