Training is a continuous expenditure. We’re nearly ten years into this craze and we’re still continuously pumping out new models. Whether they’re trained from scratch or not is immaterial. Both processes still consume energy. If you want to justify the claim that training cost is negligible, you would have to show that this cost is actually going down over time and that it’s going down sufficiently quickly.
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- howrar@lemmy.catoAsklemmy@lemmy.ml•I think Lemmy in general is very against AI. I'm rather new here, is it like a fediverse group thing or is this even based on reality?1·4 days ago
- howrar@lemmy.catoAsklemmy@lemmy.ml•I think Lemmy in general is very against AI. I'm rather new here, is it like a fediverse group thing or is this even based on reality?0·4 days ago
It doesn’t look like that energy consumption blog post account for the cost of training the model. Otherwise, it should be telling us how many queries/sessions are assumed to be run over the course of the lifetime of a model.
- howrar@lemmy.catoHacker News@lemmy.bestiver.se•Altman on AI energy: it also takes 20 years of eating food to train a humanEnglish2·5 days ago
Those 20 years of eating directly serve our primary evolutionary goal that is the continued existence of human beings.
Most of us also have the goal of enjoying our time here. Food also contributes towards that.
I like to keep to the same routine when possible. Birthdays and holidays interrupt that. No good. I can’t do much for holidays, but since my birthday is supposed to be my day, i can demand this from everyone around me.
- howrar@lemmy.catoPeople Twitter@sh.itjust.works•Avocado toast is out. Rotisserie chicken is in.10·10 days ago
Our local Costco has these. They’re the previous day’s chicken and are sold at a discount.
- howrar@lemmy.catoGames@sh.itjust.works•Dev says "false DMCA" from Microsoft got their sandbox game removed from Steam over apparent Minecraft copyright, all because of a screenshot of birch treesEnglish2·15 days ago
The way it seems to work in Canada is that the government decides on a set of topics they want to fund that are fairly high level, and as long as your work falls in one of those categories, the grant gets approved. So the government doesn’t choose the specific drug to study. They choose which medical condition we want to try to treat, then they let the PIs tell them what they want to do and how it relates to those priorities.
- howrar@lemmy.catoScience@lemmy.ml•Brain train game may help protect against dementia for up to 20 years1·16 days ago
The other potential explanation is that it’s because the speed task increases in difficulty as you get better at it. I’m hoping that’s the real reason.
- howrar@lemmy.catoScience@lemmy.ml•Brain train game may help protect against dementia for up to 20 years1·16 days ago
How does this compare to other types of cognitive work? There are much more interesting things I’d rather spend my time on. It’d be nice to know if they have similar benefits.
- Learning something new is winning.
- Your perspective is irrelevant when it comes to facts. It only matters when it’s about your personal experience, and there are no sources you can cite to contradict those experiences.
- howrar@lemmy.catoFunny@sh.itjust.works•It's a good thing we named most of the dinosaurs like a hundred years ago2·17 days ago
Why use more syllables when few syllables do trick? It’s not like T-Rex is ever ambiguous.
- howrar@lemmy.catoAsklemmy@lemmy.ml•Suppose i have a glass of balls, what % of balls need to be blue so that i can say, balls in this glass are generally blue?5·18 days ago
With no additional context, if you said that “the balls in this glass are generally blue”, I would interpret that meaning every ball falls within the range of hues that can still be called blue by most people but may be questioned by a few. So 100% of the balls have to be “I can see why someone would call that blue”.
- howrar@lemmy.catoHacker News@lemmy.bestiver.se•The world heard JD Vance being booed at the Olympics. Except for viewers in USAEnglish11·19 days ago
Obviously, only that tiny percentage of the population “care”. Not sure what they care about, but they care.
Financing is available for your $1 candy bars now.
That majority of people that are worse than AI slop are also not producing anything, so we’re not flooded with human slop. And when they do, we’re supportive because you need to practice producing bad stuff before you can start producing good stuff.
If humans produced slop at the same rate as AI, I guarantee you that everyone will be complaining about it just the same.
- howrar@lemmy.catoCanada@lemmy.ca•Carney announces Canada bringing back EV incentives for consumers | CBC2·22 days ago
Rebates on used cars can come with the stipulation that the current owner has owned it for a certain number of years, and the amount can also be smaller.
- howrar@lemmy.catoCanada@lemmy.ca•Despite 'elbows up,' Canada on track to be net lender to U.S. for ninth straight year1·22 days ago
Right, so that’s total investments that we want to reduce, not net.
- howrar@lemmy.catoCanada@lemmy.ca•Despite 'elbows up,' Canada on track to be net lender to U.S. for ninth straight year1·22 days ago
Couldn’t you also theoretically hit net 0 while having 100% of our trades going through the US? I don’t know what the “lender” part of “net lender” means, so I could be wrong here, but it seems like this isn’t the right metric to look at if what you care about is trade diversification.
- howrar@lemmy.catoCanada@lemmy.ca•Despite 'elbows up,' Canada on track to be net lender to U.S. for ninth straight year1·22 days ago
we can just
Implying it’s simple to get everyone to stop buying anything tied to the US, and everyone in the US to do the same with Canada.
- howrar@lemmy.catoHacker News@lemmy.bestiver.se•2 in 5 Americans did not read a single book in 2025English3·22 days ago
7 Minutes
Average time Americans aged 15 and older spend reading per day, compared to over 7 hours spent on screens daily.
That’s kind of insane. What do people spend those 7h on if not reading? Is it all video content?
You know what else takes far less energy than training a single model? One query. Yet, you argue that it’s the main contributor to the energy consumption. Why is that? It’s because there’s a very high volume of them, thus bringing up the total energy consumption. At the end of the day, it’s this total energy consumption that matters, not the cost of doing it once. Look at the total energy expenditure of training, not just the cost of doing it once.
We’re talking about AI here because that’s the topic of this thread. I’ve never seen anyone say that it’s the only problem worth addressing. Plus, if you want to compare energy usage of ads (or anything else) compared to AI, you would first need to know how much energy AI is actually using.