

>His bank accounts are frozen
Well, don’t rely on the banks in the first place, use cash and crypto for everything. Is it not possible to live like this in his country?
Developer of ActivityPub-based micro-blogging and content subscription platform Mitra. Working on Fediverse standards: https://codeberg.org/silverpill/feps


>His bank accounts are frozen
Well, don’t rely on the banks in the first place, use cash and crypto for everything. Is it not possible to live like this in his country?


It does not. That is as optional as fiat exchanges with cryptocurrencies.
Taler claims to be “not a currency”, that means it has to be used with existing currency such as Euro. That means an exchange is not optional. I guess it can be used with a cryptocurrency too, or fake money, but obviously this is not what people are interested in.
And the resulting tokens are like physical cash and can not be de-anonymized by the exchange or anyone else in the chain.
Again, according to the Taler website, the exchange tracks every transaction in order to prevent double spends. If it has a full view of the network, it can employ statistical analysis.
I think you should really inform yourself better before making yourself look really stupid by confidently spreading such non-sense.
Only you make unsubstantiated claims here.
If you believe Taler is decentralized, provide an example of it being used with a widely accepted peer to peer currency such as Bitcoin.
If you believe Taler is fully private, show us a security audit which confirms Taler’s resistance to statistical analysis.


It’s not centralized at all
It depends on the banking system with its proprietary APIs and centralized money issuance.
privacy for buyers, but not sellers
In order to spend money, you need to receive it first. I don’t know if it makes you a “seller” in Taler, but in any case, this partial protection probably makes de-anonymization of all transactions via statistical analysis much easier.


Potentially, maybe. Taler is centralized and has poor privacy protections, but if it ever takes off it might become a good option in jurisdictions where decentralized currencies are illegal.
Meanwhile, Monero already works for the Fediverse:
https://deadsuperhero.com/the-fediverse-and-content-creation-monetization/#honorable-mention-mitra


@rimu I sent two reactions, one unicode and one with a custom emoji. The unicode one worked as expected, but the second one with :catjam: is not rendered properly. Also it seems to have replaced the unicode reaction.


Blockchain is a bad choice for a social network, it’s expensive and all data is public. But since we’re talking about decentralization, let’s make a rough comparison.
Bitcoin: 24229 nodes (source: https://bitnodes.io/)
Fediverse: 30005 nodes (source: https://fedilist.com/)
Most of blockchain networks are much smaller than Bitcoin, so they don’t even come close to the Fediverse in terms of decentralization.


Yes, it is feasible and such instances already exist.
For example, you can run a Mitra instance on Tor, I2P or Yggdrasil. It is a lightweight micro-blogging server similar to Mastodon:
https://codeberg.org/silverpill/mitra
Tor / I2P docs:
- https://codeberg.org/silverpill/mitra/src/branch/main/docs/onion.md
- https://codeberg.org/silverpill/mitra/src/branch/main/docs/i2p.md
I mean event kinds: https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips?tab=readme-ov-file#event-kinds
ActivityPub has Note and Follow, Nostr has 1 and 3.
@phnt @monero @ArseneSpeculoos Yeah I heard they want to make privacy coins illegal, but there are simple workarounds. Do they plan to go cashless as well?