“Debian - older stuff for stability. Arch - bleeding edge rolling release. Fedora somewhere in the middle.” Very true. I would add that then there are a bunch of others that fill the gaps in between. For instance, Ubuntu makes Debian easier and Mint makes Ubuntu more open and TuxedoOS makes Debian/Ubuntu far more up-to-date. Then, CachyOS makes Arch more easy and gamable while Manjaro tries to make Arch more stable. Fedora is a perfect blend but those those that have a beef against Redhat/IBM (USA), OpenSUSE is a perfect blend too of the philosophies of Debian and Arch.

Distrowatch lists MX origin as “Greece, USA”, but likely have developers from both the US and the EU mainly.

I would not consider MX a branch of antiX. Some developers are also working on antiX so they likely share the same ideology (mainly anti-capitalism), but while antiX is explicitly affirming so, MX, instead, keeps a neutral political tone on its portal and its communications on everything non-linux related.

I had used MX and it is a well-rounded distro, totally recommended in in a computer older than a decade, you don’t like systemd, like Debian but dislike anything Ubuntu or if you like any of the specific tools they ship with MX with. Also, knowing the ideology of some of their developers, if you despise big-brother, this distro should be less likely to be compromised than, lets say Fedora or Nobara.

Likely there is a combination of factors:

First, as MX is catered mostly for a bit aged computers, it is likely the demographics of users are a bit more aged that other distros like CachyOS (which by the way, it is now in the crest of a wave, signaling Distrowatch ranking is not correlated with market share.)

Also, the fact that many of us are pondering about MX’s high ranking, we are also clinking on it more that we would on Ubuntu or Mint so feeding the impressions count.

Similarly, when a post like this is brought up, a bunch of use go to Distrowatch and click on it to see info about MX.

Also a regional popularity must be at place… distrowatch probably is more prevalent is certain countries that MX is favored. I don’t see many in Asia using MX for instance, so western distrowatch distorts its global popularity. For instance if 3 users in the US use Mint and 3 MX but in China, that they barely go to distrowatch, 3 use Mint and 0 MX, distrowach would rank globally MX and Mint as same while in reality, Mint is clearly in top globally.

Of course, it is also likely MX developers have a bit of incentive of clicking on Distrowatch for their baby… I don’t find it particularly too bad since many developers are doing far worse things… Using bots and dozens of different IPs would trespass the ethical boundaries for me though! MX is not the only ones that could potentially be doing this… it is not possible that Arch or Kubuntu are raked way bellow Q4OS, Lite, or Bluestar for instance. I see some artifacts among top famed distros too. It reminds me of the VW diesel scandal… VW was cheeting, but all other car makers were manipulating in one way or another their emissions too, it is just that US found it convenient to go for the foreign low hanging fruit.

Best thing is for us to stop reading those rankings as anything more than distros that trend up and down and that is it. I categorize all distros we all hear about, from MX to Cachy, from Nobara to deepin all as equally competitive and the difference just catered to the needs of different users. The more unwarranted credit we give to these rankings, the more incentive we are given to manipulations.

I have seen your posts here for a few months and you are far more knowledgeable than I am in Linux. However, I have to say I disagree here. I did use Slowroll for two months and found no problem, nor a need for much wikis, if any… now, I dont have nvidia so maybe that is why. The main developer of Slowroll is awesome (personable and reachable) and his professionalism is what make him not categorize his Slowroll as stable so it is not listed as such. He has previously mentioned the challenges he is facing with the concept, but that can be addressed in due time. Most people in OpenSUSE should use either Tumbleweed or Leap for now.

Regarding OpenSUSE, it is a tad behind Fedora in refinement but minimal. Its biggest handicap, however, is its small footprint in the Linux marketplace, yet still amazing what they had pulled off with their limited resources.

Your beloved Mint, oh gosh, how much I tried to like it, but aesthetics and lack of flexibility kills it for me. It is, hands down, the less problem free one, no questions, it is what I recommend most for someone that need a set-it-and-forget-it distro, Mint is still the one. But I just cannot work happy with Cinnamon, even when first started in Linux. One system in the same ubuntu branch that I found almost as reliable as Mint, but with fairly new KDE, is TuxedoOS; more stable than Kubuntu, a bit less than Mint, and close in freshness as Fedora/OpenSUSE Tumbleweed

In this forum probably it is not necessary, but in case you are new on this… HR is there to protect the company and just the company. If HR finds that getting rid of you is easier than of the problem you are complaining about, for the good of the company, they will boot you out. It is not been mean, it is for what they are paid for.

By using Fedora, one helps Red Hat/IBM in different ways:

• With more usage of Fedora, Linux enthusiasts cater to that distro more and more, and Red hat benefits from all that feedback and large customer base. Fedora gets better and Red Hat stands out over the competition.
• With larger customer base, Red Hat’s board approve to allocate more resources to the platform, increasing its competitive advantage.
• With more users of Fedora, Red Hat can find more qualified professionals that grew up using already Fedora, increasing its human capital competitive advantage.

Customer base, paying or no, is a tremendous competitive advantage… that is why Microsoft winked at piracy across the globe for 2 decades so companies purchased their solutions since millions of users already knew how to use them. Of course, once the competition was out, Microsoft started to hike prices tremendously.

Of course, the development of Fedora, since it is FOSS, benefits all the community, but it also feeds the monster in the process that, at the moment they want, they pull the rug on the community that, at that stage, won’t have any companies that can take the lead anymore.

The moral here, if behind Fedora is a company that did bad things for FOSS, that it is owned by a company that contributes with the IDF, and both are based in a country that any day may ban Red hat technology to be distributed to any foreign country of their choosing… why choosing Fedora when plenty of alternatives are equally comparable, more ethical and less prone to manipulation.

That was 3 years ago. I understand they made a mistake (twice) but ok since then. I think most of the Manjaro criticism is no longer warranted. All distros had made mistakes.

For those of us that despise Red Hat, sorry, but increasing the user base of Fedora, dramatically helps Red Hat’s marketability and profitability (and IBM’s). These companies not only make decisions bad for the FOSS community but way too happy to do business with a country massacring kids as we speak too. Now, I still recommend using Fedora since, as you say they are not straight IBM and they are at the vanguard, yet, for those with a conscience on these matters, there are as equally comparable offers out there.

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is pretty solid and 98% of the refinement of Fedora, that in my opinion, it is the most polished of them all. Now, using Fedora supports companies like Red Hat/IBM so it is a no-no for me.

The only thing OpenSUSE has is that is independent so does a few things differently than Debian or Fedora based ones, but after a few retouches that you will learn in no time you will be at the level of Fedora. It is perfectly OK for beginners, just that there are a few things differently, sometimes for the better like many utilities from YAST, but will be different from what you find in most non OpenSUSE forums. Again, is minimal, 95% of the staff is the same. Unfortunately, it does not have the costumer base that Ubuntus/Mint/Fedora has, but the supporters are technically highly committed and competent, they just need to improve in their marketing arena that is what is holding them down.

Another KDE that I like is TuxedoOS. It works perfectly in non Tuxedo devices and very stable in my experience… I even had better stability experience than Kubuntu, and that says a lot.

Did not play enough with Manjaro and will try in a few days. It had some bad press but I think is more due to diverging a bit from Arch philosophy of instant updates than anything else. CachyOS I recommend only for latest computers or those willing to adjust things a bit once in a while.

For older devices, MXLinux KDE is the ideal in integrated graphics chips.

The people here have given some reasons of the hate and some are true and some is just no so much. After years observing however this is my take:

1. As mannycalavera mentioned, Linux users are “contrarian”; yes we tend to repudiate what is the mainstream, and in the Linux world that is Ubuntu. Ironically, Ubuntu did more for making Linux mainstream than anybody else.

2. Ubuntu have amazing technologies but it is usually unable to compete with the competitors that has the no only far more capacity for new development (usually faster, not necessarily more innovative) but also to push it harder into the market.

One thing most people ignore, even among Linux users, is how small Canonical actually is :

• Canonical employees 500 to 800. Red Hat close to 20,000 (and, in top of that, it leverages IBM’s global engine!).
• Canonical makes some $200 million. Red Hat makes $5,300 million.
• Even, SUSE (OpenSUSE) is far larger than Canonical.
• Proportionally, Canonical makes far more contributions to the community than the other 2 companies.

Canonical, if you are listening, here is my recommendation to you:

1. You can both cater to large corporation as a competent and resourceful partner, and also to Linux enthusiast as the cool, approachable, and welcoming collaborator you are. Search for that formula.

2. Get out of London/ Isle of Man. Make a bold move to a new hub that can expand your horizons… Barcelona, Gibraltar or even a bolder move; Mexico, Indonesia,… the UK is dragging you down in costs, image and even talent.

Thanks, lots of material to process here!

Ok, so of the 7 Billion hike (of the total 64B he aims at!), what is the business case?

Has anyone seen it? Is it 3B for troops and 1B for French made equipment and 3B on American made? Or 6B on American equipment and 1B on troop readiness? What percentage is for contingency? (American made stuff, very easily and practically instantly Trump can make them grounded), is the 7B hike for France defense, or to buy American to directly ship to Ukraine? That, and many others, are question you will never see the media ask, and until there is an answer and accountability, it is just money laundering … pretty much just like shipping airplanes full of sacks of money to Baghdad and expecting desirable outcomes.

I get it, but we are a dying breed Balsoft. The trackpoint requires no hand movement so very efficient but for newcomers they just desist when you put that pressure into your index finger that at first, it may be even be painful; therefore they just give it up at first 5min. Also, I remember when HP made laptops with the nipple (blue and tad larger) and I was not that appealed for it (and probably everyone else) so they stop it making it. There is something else in the ThinkPad red nipple, maybe the symbology of an era. Just for that, I will probably die old in top of a Thinkpad. Now, like i mentioned, if some laptop bold company brings something truly unique, differentiated and practical… I will jump ship.

I see the huge appeal for Framework laptops and kudos for them to make themselves a niche in this tough market.

I stick to used Thinkpads for now though but if Framework (or any other) makes them reasonable upgradable (5-8 screws are fine) a bit waterproof, open BIOS and the Pointing stick, I’ll pay dearly for it! And I am sure I am not alone. Tuxedo, Slimbook, come on… make a bold move here!!

Wow Pinguinu, you are in fire! I cannot disagree much here. I see you are not a PSOE fan (Main Political party in Spain)… and right to be so, they were the ones put Spain in NATO to begin with. But very disappointed with all, and I mean all small coalition parties too. Anyone party you would root for in Spain/Europe?

Now, given ALL Spain’s neighbors, from north to south, from East to West… sorry, but Spain stands out on Gaza’s cause by a lot! Should Spain do more, absolutely! Even at the risk of loosing the governorship because in somethings, an genocide is one of them, one should not do compromises. Yet, I understand some many think is better to endure with half-measured policies than to do the right thing and perish in the attempt.

Sorry, I did not understand the “they’re lucky that they hadn’t even more ties to Israel prior to October 7”. What do you mean?

So true on the USSR.

On using personal narrative for advance I am fine, but has to be more or less genuine to the context. If I say that my neighbor is horrible because once took my lawnmower and never returned it back and leave the part that he bought me later on a better one because he broke mine… I have been completely disingenuous.

I hear you.

The Catalan police (Mossos), and I had always supported its creation and certain independence from the rest of police forces in Spain, has growth to become a bit too militarized for my taste.

I am not following their work on drug dealers, but the job they are doing with “terrorism” is appalling. There are cases of genuine terrorism but the majority, overwhelmingly majority, are not what they are selling to the media, and they have been doing this for more than a decade already… in brief portrayed disgruntled Muslim immigrants as “terrorists” for sharing files. I presume is half malice, half in a competition drive with the other police forces in Spain to gather recognition and medals. But I should not complain, in the US there is a lot of that too, I was just expecting better of that young and, supposedly, modern and agile police force.

Thanks for the clarification… sorry if it sounded I was going after you, actually I read your comment as you intended.

What I was venting about is about how the media that, today, works as memes only portrayed one side of her story… something like this meme does too. Now, if we are going to be that simplistic, this meme captures far more her experience under the Soviet rule than her moms after WWII.

Of course they would get GrapheneOS phones but does not make user a suspect, they also carry cash rather than credit cards, but not all people with cash should be a suspect!

The mayor problem in Barcelona is being the pickpocket capital of the world and the unregistered Airbnbs! Both are relatively easy to address (in conjunction with the legislative and judicial system), but are have not been tackled for 2 decades already. And please, don’t start suspecting guys with Nike sneakers and cross bags as pickpocketers now too! There are plenty, plenty of genuine methods to go after the bad guys than cheeking their phones or shoe wear… gosh, even civilians are tired of pinpointing at them to end up being completely ignored by that police!