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Cake day: October 19th, 2024

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  • Most of my friends killed themselves. I also thought that I was a waste of space. I went into debt to move across the country and figured if i couldn’t put anything together, I’d off myself more quietly away from family.

    Then I got a boss that actually valued my outside opinion. I got internal promotion and leveraged that job into a couple of strategic lateral movements. Now people lookup to me. It’s weird. Recently I got a public honorable mention from Google. All this is cause I’m an asshole who refused to let the world near where I grew up, dictate what I should and shouldn’t do.

    Did I solve the fact that I tied my value to my contributions to society? No. But it turns out society is much bigger than the place I started and other cultures and societies think im useful. I still don’t fit in and it’s still lonely af. (I wish my friends were here so bad).

    All that to say,they may not value you today but that reflects more about them than you. Today, I find great solace in reading books and learning ideas from people born hundreds or even thousands of years before I was born.

    Don’t give up. You may be helping a future version of someone like me or like yourself.




  • Its easy to handle this once you are in your thirties and stop having friends. Jkjk

    You are right to question these things and I think most Vegans go through this kind of struggle. The answer will be different for different people. I fall into the “no ethical consumption under capitalism” category and it helps keep me humble. So even if you find and commit to only Vegan clothes and shoes (there are a lot of great options now, this is definitely more doable than in the past) a truck which burns fossil fuels, requires destroying habitats to build roads and will kill thousands of insects on the way to deliver your shoes will still be your middle man.

    Personally, I still wear my HS clothes as well. I have phased out nonvegan shoes and belts, but i did it gradually and naturally over years by just replacing ones that reached end of life with Vegan ones. Now, my car still has leather seats because I’m not perfect and while I would love if they were Vegan leather that wasn’t an option. Finding an honest car dealer was so frustrating and hard that haggling over interior materials like clothe was beyond my mental capacity at that point. I didnt even think of it until after the purchase. I’m sure Im the bad guy in someone’s book for that, but to me veganism isnt an endless checklist of dos and don’ts. Besides I’ve found people who make mountains over these molehills to be unpleasant company anyways.

    Because we are a small group and humans love purity tests its important to keep in mind that reasonable people who are real Vegans will reach different conclusions.

    Contrary to what most people said here, I do not bring these things up with people who are nonvegans. Nonvegans already perceive the barrier to entry to be too high and many of them think we look at them with judgment. Plus many do not know that I eat anything other than Caesar salad and blocks of tofu. So if they ask me what being a Vegan is like and I go on a rant about how I cant get the stylish running shoes I want and have to settle for these others, I have just raised the barrier even higher for that person and left all their biases unchecked. I’d much rather talk about the glory of homemade bread and fresh noodles that haven’t harmed a sentient being.