Haha, don’t worry, I get that perspective. I was actually trying to do the opposite - I feel like the perspective you outline is the default one people will usually take, so I wanted to change that :P I think this article does a good job of that too: just because they’re not perfect, doesn’t mean someone actively doing some good deserves negative attention, when we don’t give that same treatment to others who do less good.

That said, I’m not arguing that we should “be treating FUTO as a beacon of OSS support”. I do actually agree with all of this:

What we should be doing is acknowledging that they did give a small one time donation to various projects, but also recognising that it was for self-serving reasons. I’m sure theres individuals who have given more than 1000 in single payments to these projects, or less but more consistently (monthly, every 6 months, every year, etc). What makes FUTO more of a supporter than those individuals?

If it wasn’t for this article, I wouldn’t actually be talking about FUTO. (Except in the context of Immich, where they actually are the main reason the project’s doing well.) So I don’t feel like we need to start negatively discussing them just because they’re not perfect.

And don’t worry about the downvotes, I don’t actually care about them.

It’s just so much more sensible than 50 km/h.

Yeah I read the article. Still, musl libc received $1000, the advertising didn’t sell anything, and it got corrected after it got pointed out. One of the founders maybe did associate themselves with someone whose views I might not like, but I feel like if their main goal was to promote that person, there would’ve been more efficient ways to use that money to do so that would not resolve in musl libc receiving $1000, or in a project like Immich being viable.

I don’t think that comparison is entirely fair, but I do think that homeless person having 1 euro is still better than that person not having 1 euro. Especially if instead of 1 euro, they actually gave the homeless donation equivalent of keeping a project like Immich viable.

I’d also keep in mind that there are other rich person not giving 1 euro to a homeless person, and so while I have my reservations about rich people in general, I wouldn’t necessarily single out the one that gave the euro.

Vaak als een wetenschappelijke doorbraak in het nieuws komt “omdat het Nederlands is”, is het eigenlijk niet zo bijzonder, maar dit lijkt me toch wel een erg mooie stap. Hopen dat de tests succesvol zijn!

I mean, they do still give money to good open source projects.

D66 is nooit bijzonder duidelijk links dan wel rechts geweest (ik heb ze mentaal altijd uberhaupt economisch rechts, maar wel zeer duidelijk progressief). Maar ook vanuit politiek tactisch oogpunt snap ik het niet.

Ah OK. If all you’re saying is “be aware of the risk while you use it”, then I can get behind that.

How? The clients can only notice if the API works as specified. The server can constantly be replaced without anybody noticing.

See the link I posted before about the secure enclave. (Note that I could’ve been clearer before: it’s not specifically the Signal client app that needs to detect server tampering; any software could.)

So you know the problems of the servers.

So what are you saying? Don’t use anything that has a server? (To be fair, I think it’s a good idea to have pure peer-to-peer apps installed as well, but for most situations that would still just come down to “do not communicate digitally at all”.)

Give me Flatpak and atomic distros, I’m too old for maintenance. Give me some of that good dumbing down, cause I’m dumb.

Het is zeer uitzonderlijk dat politieke partijen ervoor kiezen om het vanaf de start van hun coalitie zonder meerderheidssteun te doen. De VVD was er ook zeker geen voorstander van en wilde tot het laatst proberen JA21 erbij te krijgen.

DAT ZOU NOG STEEDS GEEN MEERDERHEIDSSTEUN HEBBEN.

Waarom doet de NOS de hele tijd alsof er een meerderheidscoalitie zonder GL-PvdA realistisch is?

Ja maar dat is een minderheidskabinet zonder GL-PvdA. De vraag is: waarom een minderheidskabinet met VVD, ipv een minderheidskabinet met GL-PvdA? Met die laatste heb je iig nog de kans dat de VVD alsnog aansluit.

They might be thinking about Winboat, which, as I understand it, is basically running a VM in a container, and then running Windows in the VM.

Which I’m also not sure of what it would have brought us :P

Het was inderdaad een goed idee geweest, maar helaas is het inmiddels helemaal vast gevroren 😅

What could a client detect? Signal is a US company and will comply with the government. The server can’t be trusted.

As mentioned before, it could detect that the server is not running the published source code. So long as it’s untampered with, and the published source code is trusted, the server can be trusted. And again, for message encryption that is only an additional layer of protection; the messages are encrypted before reaching the server, so even if the server was malicious, it still couldn’t see the contents. That’s the whole point.

They can detect if a different app was installed from the store on their phone

I think you’re conflating points here - the detection was about detecting whether the server had been tampered with.

I’m not sure what specifically you’re arguing for, here. It would’ve been nice for Signal to not have been in the US, and it can be coerced to stop working altogether, but your communication is at least as safe as any other app, at least the ones of comparable usability. Or are you’re just saying we’re all lost anyway and we might just as well give up and communicate via public Twitter posts?