UniversalMonk has been evading the a ban on him by posting from new accounts on [email protected]. That’s ban evasion, which on most instances leads to an account-level ban, as far as I know. The relevant account is [email protected].
I’m not sure how to notify admins on lemm.ee, so I’m posting here. If ban evasion justifies an account ban on lemm.ee, then it’s time. If there’s a better place to send this note, let me know, and I’ll do that instead.
I’ve shared your post with fellow moderators thank you!🤗
Hey guys,
I’ve reviewed the situation and don’t believe Universal Monk has earned a instance ban from lemm.ee. Auk, if he continues to post in communities he’s been banned from from his lemm.ee account , please let me know.
I’m going to go ahead and lock this thread, thank you for bringing this to our attention.
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Being the same person who was banned, and posting from a new account, is ban evasion.
You can find a place that can put up with you, if you want to try. That’s the sense in which your voice won’t be silenced. The same people who’ve seen what you have to say and want no part of it are not obligated to continue listening to it forever, with you disabling their attempts not to hear from you anymore. That’s protecting their rights to use Lemmy as they want to use it.
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Fully agree. I’m finishing up a few replies to other people who had things to say about it, and then I plan to wash my hands of it.
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The bot banned you from [email protected] I don’t know how long ago. You had a lower rank, after a while, than even Media Bias Fact Check bot. Somehow. That’s your violation of the letter of the law.
I can’t even find the entry in the modlog because your record of moderation actions is so extensive that it’s almost impossible to make sense of. I seriously tried, and since your account ban and the endless list of deletions and bans people have been giving you, I couldn’t find it. It’s hard to find stuff for now-deleted accounts, I guess. It’s there though. You were banned quite a while ago from [email protected] under the now-deleted account. I can find a date or a moderation record if you want to see it. Anyway, you put yourself in a position to be able to DM people again after being banned for some kind of offense in DMs, and started posting in new politics communities with the exact same stuff after being banned for a pattern of behavior that I would say the mods were excessively generous about, to the point of moderation malpractice. That’s your violation of the spirit of the law.
You did ban evasion both in letter and in spirit. And, you’re pretending with an innocent face not to understand how anyone could have a negative reaction to you, when you’re clearly aiming for exactly that negative reaction with a lot of your past posts. That’s the proactive element that would lead me, if I were an admin, to ban you on sight.
You need to reevaluate your approach to posting, or else get accustomed to people wanting to ban you. It’s the world’s most natural reaction to what you like doing.
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Your ban is in the modlog. It’s about halfway down, search for “pleasant”.
I’m mostly relying on common sense here. Your participation in previous politics communities was incredibly obnoxious. The issue was never that you were talking about third parties and posting news articles. I don’t even know all the details of why you were banned. I think some of it was for DM harrassment or posting fan fiction about other people on Lemmy. Now that you’ve been banned, you’ve made new accounts and went looking for new politics communities to start doing the same thing in, while seeking for exact clarifications about the rules that would let you carefully adhere to the letter of them so you could keep doing it, while the overwhelming majority of the community keeps asking you not to.
I’m not trying to be mean about it, and I’m not upset or anything. If you’re interested in changing how you contribute so that you’re a net positive to the community, let’s talk. If you’re planning to continue your current type of contributions, but trying to engineer ways around the rules with multiple accounts or whatever so that you can keep doing it, then the answer is no thank you.
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I think some of it was for DM harrassment or posting fan fiction about other people on Lemmy.
Again, assumption. And no, none of that ever happened.
Modlog, search for “harassing.”
Good to know, maybe I missed the tone in your text. I def took it as you were trying to ban me from this instance, lemm.ee, and sh.itjust.works because of what you thought of my previous behavior on an instance that I was banned from weeks ago. Since you are writing to all of the admins there.
That is exactly what I was trying to do, yes. Not for your behavior on the previous instances exactly, but for starting up the same behavior from new accounts since you’d already been banned for it, which is against the rules. I think I explained the commonsense reasons also.
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This is a really good point. I was going to get sucked into replying after his innocent-faced reply, but there’s really no point to it.
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You are a troll and we’ve endured weeks of your bad faith reply barrages and even seen you bragging about downvotes. I don’t see any excuse for you that holds water.
It was real fun for you up until everyone quit asking you to stop and simply removed you, huh?
It may stun you to realize this, but you worked hard and earned this reputation and now you own it. It’s yours. It’s no one’s fault but your own. You had ample time and chance to contribute in earnest.
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And you can easily not “endure” me by blocking my name.
Part of the point of the violation here is that, if someone’s already blocked your name, they now have to do it again for three new accounts, until you make more beyond those three.
I already think that trolling and saying that anyone who doesn’t like it should just block you is unreasonable. Trolling and saying that anyone who doesn’t like it needs to block every new account you make to keep trolling with when one gets banned is a whole different level.
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As I said under the other post, I do believe this evasion was entirely unintentional, for the reasons you outlined. The part that was intentional was trolling in lemmy.world politics and some other communities until your whole user got banned, and then making new accounts and going looking for other politics communities to start up exactly the same antics in, explicitly affirming your plan to continue the same pattern of behavior. And, in the course of doing that, you managed to break some rules, set up to protect against that kind of behavior.
I’m not planning to set the bot up to notify dozens of users about their bans in a community they have never posted in and don’t care about. Mostly it doesn’t come up, because you have to be pretty obnoxious for the bot to ban you. Almost no one even close to that boundary even posts there, because almost everyone understands how to interact with other users without collecting hundreds or thousands of downvotes.
I get that you didn’t get a notification, and so probably didn’t know you were banned. You did know you were being obnoxious previously, and refused to stop doing it until it escalated to an account ban, and then made some new accounts and started looking for new places to do it.
I think admins and mods those new places can make the decision about whether that is ban evasion, or whether they want to let you do this all again until you inevitably get banned again sometime later. People have talked with you about why what you’re doing is a problem. Why they would pick that second option is something of a mystery to me, but I’ll leave it up to them. I’m just relaying the information.
It would be a different story if you were just misunderstanding something, and completely open to a conversation about why you keep getting banned and what you can do differently, but you’re clearly more interested in figuring out the details of the rules so you can find ways around them and keep doing your same thing.
I’m not planning to set the bot up to notify dozens of users about their bans in a community they have never posted in and don’t care about.
lol so your dumb bot bans randos, doesn’t tell them, and you’re too lazy to fix it and this guy is somehow avoiding bans he never even knew happened. this is straight ridiculous stop wasting people’s times with this crap
Sending out ban notifications to dozens of users about bans in a community they’ve never heard of doesn’t seem like good bot design.
I am unsurprised that a UniversalMonk fan would think that would be a totally reasonable thing to do, though, and at the same time that banning someone who managed to get an account ban from the least ban-happy instance there is when they make a new account and start doing the same stuff is somehow unreasonable.
Dude, if your bot is issuing bans, it absolutely, 100% needs to be notifying people it bans.
Fuck universal, that’s not the issue. A bot that’s automatically banning people is bullshit to begin with, if that’s what it does and I’m not entirely sure that’s the case but if it’s banning, and doesn’t include a notification function, that’s beyond bad.
There is no such thing as ban notifications on Lemmy, but the bot’s bans are public in the mod log like any other community moderator bans. This seems like a reasonable design as notification spam by a bot is significantly worse than not knowing about being banned from a community you are not using anyways (and if you have been using it, then the ban is easily noticeable and doesn’t need a notification either).
yeah, lemmy doesn’t have ban notifications (afaik anyway).
But there’s a bot out there banning people from the outside. If that’s going to be a part of lemmy, then it damn well needs a higher standard
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