• RustySharp
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    12 days ago

    They didn’t call it anything though? It was a direct quote?

    Also, if criminals are trying to kidnap you and you fight back, is that not self-defence?

    As a non-American, what context an I missing, and what am I supposed to be outraged about based on that snippet of a quote?

    Edit: of course I’m outraged by the whole invasion, but what did ABC do here other than publishing a quote?

    • .Donuts@lemmy.world
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      12 days ago

      The quoted part doesn’t start until “overwhelming force”. They added the self-defense part themselves.

    • Unruffled [they/them]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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      12 days ago

      Perhaps they should have also interviewed someone not from the Trump establishment about how a bunch of armed US kidnappers shooting at Venezuelan defence forces while abducting their President cannot be characterized as “self defense”.

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      This is indeed a quote, so ABC is just repeating what the source said. However, the source is an American Joint Chiefs Chairman, he is saying that the invading American forces were fired upon and responded in self-defence. Which is a weird take.

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      you got it the wrong way around, the article is saying that the kidnap special forces “defended” themselves when the guards of the president attacked the invading kidnappers. defended is a very positive word and aims to put this illegal infiltration, murder and kidnapping (war without a declaration) in a good light. as a clueless teen i used to not think about the substance and material conditions of things. if the overwhelming majority of news i see calls something “defended”, i would be swayed. a lot of adults are still clueless, only able to barely survive under the massive stress and pressure that these systems create. they do not care about this nuance out of necessity. they need to survive. this sneaky wordplay is aimed at them.

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        Yeah you’re right, my mistake. I did in my haste read it completely the wrong way round, thinking they they were met with overwhelming self-defence on the Venezuelan side.

        This is some BS.

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          I also read it this way at first. I mean, that’s the only reading that makes sense after all

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      12 days ago

      Even if the quote was not just about the overwhelming part, publishing a straight quote does not get you off the hook when it’s straight up lies. You should point out the quote is false.

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      12 days ago

      Also, if criminals are trying to kidnap you and you fight back, is that not self-defence?

      But it was the criminal kidnappers that claimed self-defence …