Then again what is the other Option? Not vote for either candidate like in 2024 and let Trump win?

Or, just run a non-genocidal candidate. For God’s sake, the election is years away, and you just take it as obvious that Democrats will choose a monster

Then the Democrats shouldn’t run candidates that will cause millions of people to stay home.

in Russia and China, two states that both claim to be socialist,

I do not understand how someone becomes so arrogant about subjects they demonstrably no shit all about.

without you resorting to “what about the west”?

Mate, you were the one who came in here bleating “what about socialist countries!”

“The incredible evil of the US is ok because the world wasn’t a utopia previously.”

Now now mr Trump supporter, saying it’s all Clinton propaganda doesn’t make the facts go away:

My god, how has .world managed to cultivate the must obnoxious people imaginable

“Uyguhrs”

Western fascists aren’t even trying anymore.

Why do you write like that?

Yeah, the US would never commit unethical human experiments outside of MAGA types… Surely; only the dastardly foreigners would be so evil. MK ultra? Never heard of it.

Least racist piefed user.

Who cares if you’re down with the phrasing? You’ve made it clear that you’re openly acting in bad faith.

“How dare you condemn the genocidal imperialist US! Don’t you know that I, personally, benefit from it?”

Yes, and the Democrats are on the side of fascism

Yup. You’re also a tankie if you can predict what’s going to happen in more than a week from the present moment.

I’m not a liberal

Don’t care what you call yourself, I’m going off what you actually say.

I don’t consider them to be more valuable

Your statements make it undeniably obvious that you do.

All I’m saying is that if we’re measuring the degree of the slide into fascism, one side is significantly more accelerationist about it.

See? You immediately demonstrated that you don’t consider Palestinian lives to be as valuable as Americans. That’s the only way you could think that the Democrats are not already fully slid into fascism.

I also value nuance in the conversation about the state of things.

Oh please, you have no nuance here, just chauvinism.

One of the more likely paths to community building in the states is through the union movement, so electing the people spending 10x as much to physically assault the working class and actively grinding down any protections unions have is, uh, still pretty bad.

Lol, as if the Democrats are friends of organised labour. What a fucking joke. You’re also, once again, showing how little you value the lives of foreigners. Your union isn’t worth the lives of half a million Palestinians.

BlueMAGA liberals have literally expunged all memory of the Biden administration from their brains. For them it’s 2022 and Trump is on his second consecutive term.

These people have literally expunged their own memories of the fact that there was already an “after Trump”. And they used it to double down in American brutality before letting Trump back into office.

“I’m trying to keep the murder machine going long enough to stop it from murdering people!”

Fucking liberal ideology in a nut shell.

After we get Trump out of office, we can start dismantling western chauvinism.

You got Trump out of office, and instead of “dismantling western chauvinism”, you instead decided to actively engage in the worst genocide of the 21st century, with such determination that you were even willing to let Trump win the election rather than stop.

Liberals consider the lives of two Americans killed by ice to be more valuable than the lives of two hundred thousand Palestinians killed by American bombs

You outright tried to claim that Democrats weren’t doing it until you were challenged.