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  • The events are usually the first Friday of the month at the Brig Pub (in the Byward Market) but depending on who’s organizing they don’t schedule them very far ahead of time. There’s also been some debate about changing locations for the past few months so the location might not be there. There’s also a Signal group. A lot of the regulars have known each other for years (back to when the group was called GOSLING) so I think they have their own ways of getting in touch with each other. The main positive to Meetup is the discoverability aspect; it brings in a lot more people than before they were using it, from what I’ve heard. But nobody is really a big fan of it.

    I have heard of OCLUG before but I’ve never managed to get their mailing list to work with my email so I always forget about them. I’m going to pin their website so I at least remember to check it for new events sometimes.



  • NGram@piefed.catoveganWhy not choose vegan ways?
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    16 days ago

    Just one thing: veganism is not about protecting animals, just not exploiting them needlessly.

    This seems like arguing semantics, but couldn’t that just as correctly be phrased as “protecting animals from needless exploitation”? Personally, I like to define animal rights as “protecting animals from humans” and human rights as “protecting humans from humans” because it’s a fun way to put it and reasonably accurate.

    Getting nutrition isn’t ‘going out of your way’. This is something you have to do no matter what. Veganism is just going 1 or 2 aisles over in the supermarket and fetching the alternative to the animal explotation.

    The same could be said about boycotting companies that are supporting Israel’s genocide, funding lobbying groups that support bad climate policies, or exploiting people in nations with less worker protections. Except perhaps in most cases it would be fetching the item beside it instead of an aisle or two over.

    It’s just changing an action you daily take to another one with similar effort level.

    That’s ignoring a lot of the challenges of going vegan. It’s not just buying different groceries, it’s also adapting or replacing recipes to work with the vegan products you’ve bought. It’s making sure restaurants have at least one vegan option when you go out (though you could be like me and just have “cheat” meals when you occasionally go out). It’s making sure your cosmetic products don’t do animal testing. Not that it has to all be done at once or at all, of course, but no matter how much you commit, it’s still a change. The food will taste different, the products will be different, the location in the store will be different.

    The amount of effort is definitely greater at the start, but eventually it gets to a similar effort as the status quo as you get used to it (assuming there’s a decent & consistent selection of vegan options in this hypothetical person’s vicinity, which is pretty likely in the places most likely to read this comment).


  • NGram@piefed.catoveganWhy not choose vegan ways?
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    16 days ago

    Assuming you aren’t posting this just to preach to the choir, there’s plenty of completely valid reasons to not choose veganism. It’s also sort of the wrong question, because there’s a lot more people who choose to stick with their status quo than to change. In this world of endless causes, services, and distractions vying for everyone’s finite attention, what makes going vegan worth it? It’s not only a question of how or why to choose vegan, it’s also a question of why should people focus their attention on veganism over other things like volunteering for a local food bank, protecting people’s rights, stopping climate policy rollbacks, scrolling social media, or even playing video games? I’m sure you and I could come up a lot of good reasons, but we’re not who needs to be convinced… it’s everyone else.

    Animal rights is sort of my favourite example of this. You will much more easily find people who think it worth their attention to protect other humans than people who want to protect animals. There’s nothing necessarily wrong with that view point, either – even I’d agree that human suffering matters more than animal suffering.




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    23 days ago

    LSAG is a good shout but I’m not sure it’s sufficient. It enables anonymous verification of something against a set of known public keys. But you still need to make sure that set of public keys is coming from real humans. It’s not proof that a user has a property (i.e. being human), it’s just proof they are a user.

    But yes this is sort of a digression from the actual main problem. The real anti-bot solution is a mix of methods imo.


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    24 days ago

    Maybe we can agree to disagree because I don’t think a specific demographic is enough to overcome the negative network effect at the start. The problem, imo, is that the attrition rate of dating apps is really high and dating apps are only good if a lot of people are located geographically nearby. You either need broad appeal to avoid running out of people early on or a demographic that is unusually geographically concentrated and usurps the attrition rate (ENM comes to mind for the latter).

    Of course, you could always make something for dating without the geo proximity, but I think most people won’t want to use something like that at all.

    The beauty of new FOSS projects is that they’re quite often hosted and developed for free, so I don’t think that’s much of a limiting factor as long as the community is there. That’s also why I think it’s important to make it big quickly, because that’s the way to get a big enough community before the creator loses interest.




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    24 days ago

    Other apps do have some good anti-bot measures which could be adopted for a FOSS project. The problem with a lot of cryptographic solutions for this is that often cryptography is usually more about proving your identity more than proving something about your identity. Tor is also focused on privacy from middle-men, which doesn’t really make sense for a dating app.

    I think the challenge boils down to how to prove you’re human without biometrics or other PII. And I think the sad reality is that you can’t prove it. Though you may be able to prove you have unique PII with some sort of zero-knowledge proof…


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    24 days ago

    Unfortunately I think projects like this have extra challenges over even regular social media platforms. There’s also retromeet which seems even more dead (it may have not even made it to a stable release).

    The idea is great but for a dating app to work, it needs to quickly get past two network effects: the global network effect (there must be enough people globally, or in a larger region, to get other people interested in trying out the platform) and the local network effect (there must be enough people to match with in most users’ local areas to keep enough people interested). With corporate backing that’s easy enough to do with a dedicated team to market and develop, but FOSS rarely has that sort of manpower. Slow growth is hard too, since users tend to leave dating apps quite often.

    There’s also the funny problem if the dev gets a partner usually the partner doesn’t appreciate them staying on dating apps. Developing a dating app could be even worse for the relationship… actually now that I think of it, maybe I should make start a similar project since I don’t like dating…


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    24 days ago

    The mainstream apps (at least the ones that have been around a while) have bot ratios which are much better. They also have active moderation teams which remove profiles that make it through the automated protections. I’d guess they have ratios closer to 20:1 than 1:20 (people:bots)