• robocall
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    4 days ago

    Let’s try the commie shit again and see if it’s better this time around

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      Sure, but no Lenin 2.0 please. Oligarchies and dictatorships tend to go down the same tired old path.

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        Are you ever going to read theory? Communism literally cannot exist without a dictatorship of the Proletariat…

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          Are you ever going to read theory? Communism literally cannot exist without a dictatorship of the Proletariat….

          I can’t tell if this is meant to be a joke or not.

          The dictatorship of the proletariat, as outlined by Marx, is not a literal dictatorship. Bourgeois parliamentary democracies were considered the dictatorship of the bourgeois.

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            I had a tankie tell my that same line of bullshit when they said that the only way to run a dictatorship of the proletariat was through a literal Lenin style dictatorship, and not any form of democracy.

            Which is just insane.

            Read more theory, and you come across the Levelers, and more pointedly, the Diggers.

            The Diggers were completely in favor of abolishing basically everything, money, government, kings and lords, property ownership. All of it in favor of an extreme Christian communism, They also advocated for forced labor for lazy malcontents, who they did not define as the poor or the destitute.

            The English civil war was wild. It laid the groundwork for Marx, and the American and French revolutions. Sadly, the English never could get it together and ditch the monarchy completely.

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          Have you ever successfully convinced anyone of anything by asking them if they have read more theory?

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          Are you ever going to read any political theory that isn’t on cowbee’s little list so that you actually understand first principles instead of just regurgitating jargon you don’t understand?

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        It’s more like “communism has never been tried” and “that wasn’t true communism”. We’ll make sure it’s done right this time.

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        tbf, gods only know how many anti-monarchial revolutions were between the first attempted peasant revolt and the mass fall of the anciens regimes