I think the actual worst part about this is that pattern recognition isn’t supposed to be a neurodivergent thing. Pattern recognition is like a built in feature in humans, but most people have it beat out of them in school
I thought that’s part of the reason we excelled as a species, seeing the patterns to eat or run from and knowing which is which. Plus getting curious about new ones and if they dont eat us figuring out what to do with them.
Not sure of their intended reference but: Cassandra in Illiad esp Trojan Horse incident Legolas, LotR, and many other Elves in Silmarrilion and Apendices Various Atreides in Dune (though they can force people to listen, lol) I had the (mis)fortune of later viewing video of an incident where I “activated.” Atm it seemed to me a very long slow progression (like 10 seconds?) But video-wise it all played out in like a second. The other takeaway was that all the stuff that I saw as “obvious” was greatly exagerated in my perception, so it was obvious to me, but impossible to get neurotypicals to credit (even to want to do) the zoom in and slow motion analysis that would be needed. I found the experience very upsetting/isolating because it proved impossible to get people to understand my perspective.
I’m not going to lie- I understood none of this.
It’s simple: The OP Trojan horse a Legolas elves while Atreides Dune lol’d an ATM on the slow while the obvious was exaggerated. And it was upsetting impossible perspective.
They activated ass to mouth. That’s what I picked up.
I go Prince-of-Persia/MaxPain. It has probably saved me sometimes, but mostly it just results in people thinking I’m a spaz.
…this has not helped my understanding at all lol.
The worst part is when you try to gently warn people, and they look at you like you’re the crazy one—only for the exact thing you predicted to happen five minutes later.
Nah, the worst part is when they gang up to say it’s your fault even though you were the one warning them and not participating in whatever happens
The part that depresses you is that somehow it’s your fault for noticing it sooner and not trying hard enough to convinelce others.
give an example?
I joined a large friend group that had been together for 7 or so years. There was a person that I noticed would tell different people slightly different versions of stories. Normally I’d dismiss these as white lies but I noticed a pattern. The person in question saw relationships as transactional and I highly suspected that these white lies revealed a much deeper penchant for emotional manipulation.
I tried to warn some people that I thought I could trust within the friend group, but this upset some people and I had the step way back. After all, who is the new person to come into this group and fuck things up? I kept my mouth shut and out of the drama as I had to watch this person build a giant rift within the group.
Thankfully a few people had finally remembered the warning I had given years before and started comparing notes on the stories this person had told everyone. In the end I was vindicated when people started confronting the lies, but a lot of people had to go through therapy for the years of suffering that person caused in the meantime. I’m not giving too many details, but it got bad: suicide attempts, cops, legal battles. I had to just sit there and watch it all.
Where the PATRIOT act ended up
Where GWOT ended up
Where the dotcom and housing bubbles ended up
Where the ai bubble is going to end up
I have double powers as I’m neurodivergent and grew up in a highly traumatic household so you learn to pick on tiny signs that it’s about to pop off. Feel my life is fight or flight at all times.
Entire too relatable. I grew up in much the same way. Having that feeling as my baseline, my “normal”, made everything else feel wrong, but I could never fully put my finger on why. I developed a sense of stoicism so that I could get through each day showing as little outward reaction as possible. However, I confused that stoicism for calmness and stability; inside my mind everything still roiled as my instincts and senses were always watching and waiting, preparing for the next time things became dangerous.
Decades of living with that level of hypervigilance paired with the effort needed to put forward a stoic exterior has worn me down. The physical symptoms of chronic mental and emotional exhaustion are debilitating; the body really does pay a toll for the mind’s wounds. Maybe if twenty years ago I had the knowledge and resources that I do now, I could have done something to stave off what I’m going through.
All this to say: if you aren’t already, please seek counseling as soon as possible. Don’t make the same mistake I did; just like the smoker who denies that their habit it harmful, if you don’t work to heal your psychological wounds now, then it will eventually catch up to you. Be well, and take care of yourself.
give an example?
Or knowing precisely what point people are attempting to make five words into the first sentence and then politely having to sit there and wait for the next five minutes while they laboriously meander their way through it.
How about being a witness to a conversation between two others and you can tell neither of them understand the point the other is trying to make.
Bonus points for when they actually agree with each other but just haven’t put together what the other is saying.
Disclaimer: Severe ADHD here
Those are the times that make me feel like maybe I have the occasional social insight. lol. While I get confused by so much that happens, I often feel like I pick up on subtle clues and situations like that. So I feel it’s a mixed-to-fuck-and-hell bag of social genius and social stupidity. It’s confusing. lol
I love that actually. It doesn’t happen often, but when it does I go “hold on, A, you’re trying to say x, but B understands y, whereas B tries to say v and you understand w”
Always leads to the most flabbergasted double stare when they realize I’m 100% right and they’d have talked past each other for hours.
Sometimes with an undertone of “but I wanted a fight” by one of them.
My parents didn’t argue often, but when they did, they always had the opinion. Sometimes it would be half an hour until they decided they could agree.
I can’t do it. I try so hard but I interrupt every time and then they say “that’s not what I mean will you let me finish” then I have to sit quietly while it was exactly what they meant.
It’s critically important to develop patience here in order to deal with people getting older and taking this to the next level
My mom is a great person whom I dearly love but she’s fallen into the stereotype of old people rambling. Nothing is a simple question or statement anymore. It’s always a long meandering story with lots of detours
This is a dangerous “skill” to have, though. Very easy to slip into the trap of assuming you know what they’re talking about, only to have them end on a different point than you expected and then suddenly you’re responding to a point they never actually made
That would be nice, but I can’t remember the last time that happened.
I walk into a room and hear things. I hear lights and fridges, heaters, cellphones vibrating on floors above me. It’s a cacafony of endless clicks and ticks and humms and beeps and whirs that seemingly no one else notices.
Cats make good sounds though. The merps and meeps and jorps and mreeps and mrops and purrs are nice.
Hmmmm. I’m still not sure you aren’t a cat.
Or Maureen Ponderosa maybe?
Its existence isn’t settled science, but I have this too and I’ve found that Auditory Processing Disorder describes it perfectly. Lots of comorbidity with autism and ADHD, so it’s possible it’s not a separate disorder but just another manifestation.
But yeah, I can’t filter out background noise at all. My brain copes by completely shutting off audio processing when I’m focusing, but it’s involuntary and can be pretty inconvenient. I have to read lips a lot when talking anywhere but a quiet environment because I can’t separate speech from background noise.
The worst is the whine from cheap chargers and power banks. Ive resorted to buying a few of my coworkers new/ better chargers in order to give myself some peace.
Try firing up a CRT display. I’m 40 and I can still hear that fucking electronic whine from several rooms away.
Ah, the first time I started hearing things my family couldnt, I’d complain or at least take note of it, and they’d look at me like i was growing a second head.at least CRTs also had a nice warm hum to go along with the whine.
The trick is to put a tiny dummy load on the USB charger. Just buy the cheapest USB cable, cut the end off, and solder (or twist) a resistor between red and black. Boom.
Had a whiny USB power strip at my office desk that stopped whining when my phone was plugged in. Small resistor took care of that perfectly, cheaply, and nondestructively. Got a kick out of confused colleagues asking why I had a dangly cable plugged in with nothing but electrical tape on the end.
What are we talking here when you say “small”. 20 ohm? 50 ohm?
I’ve a friend who has nothing but IKEA TRÅDFRI lightbulbs. Each and every one of these has a subtle coil whine, and stepping into his home is like stepping into a rainforest, but unpleasant. He doesn’t hear a single peep from them, but to me it’s hella grating. The noise changes depending on what light it’s emitting, as well as the brightness. The worst is when the light is off.
Ewwwwww. I want to die just reading that.
Coil hum.
I knew the scanner had failed before anyone tried using it because I heard it start making a high pitched whine.
How dare you forget the tiny motorcycle sounds.
They’re S tier.
Same for me too, except there’s one noise I can stand and even find it pleasant sometimes, cheap laptop coil whine, since I’ve had 3 school laptops, all have been used for at least 5 and at most 10 years, and I still use one of them daily too.
The daily machine is also fanless, so it kinda confuses me a little occasionally by making me think there’s a fan but really there can’t be lmao
time and again news things about bad things there is some stuff about wierd feelings or this seems strange. I gtfo when anything feels wierd or seems to be going somewhere wierd. unless im in about as safe an environment as I can be in. maybe. maybe then I will give a little benefit of the doubt.
give an example?
Hey, Chat! That’s a great point. It sounds like you’re trying to prompt users to generate content to feed your garbage LLM in the laziest way possible.
Have you tried fucking off?
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No idea why you are being downvoted but these are the times when things just don’t feel right. I was downtown at a festival and there was some mounted police and some guys playing with fireworks and its been awhile but there was something else where it was like. I can totally see this being a news item about a riot the next day. So I went home. Nothing happened. No riot. But I would do the same if I felt the same. This has come up again and again and I have talked about some things my wife had to. Someone put something in her drink and luckily she got home fine but she talks about how even before that things were wierd. woman should follow the wierdening way even more honestly.
The same account asked the same question like four times in this thread. Weird behaviour.
Bot behavior.
Look at their history and it’s clear they’re not a bot. The definitely transgressed against the social norm in this thread asking four times like that, but they aren’t a bot.
I mean wanting more detail is fair I think at least in the case of my reply.
God help you if you need to convey the pattern you recognize though, then language as a tool will escape your grasp
I use a lot of hand gestures to make up for it. It does not help at all.
Or it doesn’t escape your grasp but it gets actively ignored by people who see your eccentricities as being indicative that you’re less than them. Including other autistic people.
The thing will do a whatchamacallit, just wait you!
give an example?
I have noticed a back and forth in engineering companies between prioritizing project teams, who focus on a single customer each, and product teams who focus on generic development, overarching the individual projects.
Upper management will see that a lot of products are sold (each sale is a project), and the company now actually has to deliver projects. So product teams are ripped up, and everyone is dedicated to specific projects, because making these deadlines is the most essential thing in the known universe.
A couple of years later, they hire expensive consultants to tell them how to optimize their business. These consultants will note (after simply asking the engineers) that there is a lot of development being done many times over, once for each project. So the entire organisation is optimized by ripping up the project teams, and placing the engineers in product teams.
The result is a new standardized product, of which the company can sell a lot, which eventually brings us back to step 1.
A good company will realise that going 200% into 1 direction will make it way harder to steer back once the inevitable pull into the other direction arrives. So a more temperate approach, tends to win in the long term. But explaing that to a manager is usually a waste of your time.
I worked around 18 wheelers for awhile. Eventually you develop a sense for who is going to be a problem driver before they’ve even fully pulled onto the lot.
Obvious signs are the company they drive for. Some companies stress hiring competent drivers with good track records, others get theirs by training people with zero record. Condition of the tractor is another easy tell. Some states generally seemed to send worse drivers as well, for example we got a lot of bad drivers from IL.
And then you’ve got how they pull inside in the first place. Missing the turn in, not a big deal. But missing the turn in when they were going 40mph? Did they fly or creep through the gates? Either side of the spectrum is a worry. Once through the gate were they able to follow the preponderance of signage and context clues to direct them where to go? How did they brake as they came to a stop? Speaking of brakes, do you smell theirs? Not a great sign if you do. Did you have to tell them to engage their air brakes?
Then you’ve got the driver. Young driver? Not a good sign. Are they in a hurry or agitated in some way? Do they have a pet jumping all over their lap as they check in or a spouse/co driver they’re fighting with? Music absolutely blasting to keep them awake? Is the driver acting like this is all new to them? How good is their english and are they going to be able to follow simple directions?
And then you’ve got how they actually approach their dock. Wasn’t a large lot, so some drivers before they’ve even started to back up have already put themselves in an unwinnable position just by the way they approached the dock. Did they decide to circle round the lot in a weird way? If they’re having to back up at an angle did they choose the correct way, or are they trying it blind side for zero reason?
If a driver started checking a few too many of those boxes, I knew they were going to do their best to hit something. You’d tell these drivers to open their windows, literally follow you around the lot and hand hold them as they backed up, and they’d still manage to hit something.
Every single decision that every single middle manager has ever made and forced everyone to follow through with.
I’m not autistic, but I hate it when other people just ignore the obvious things. Like come on. Is this the result of evolution? How did your lineage survive for this long?
It’s a matter of learned behavior, not genetics.
For mine, it was resistance to various flus and sicknesses.
Most of my family has shit for brains, and I’m convinced the only reason they survived up to me is having all the good genes for physical health.
Too bad mental health didn’t get points put into it too …
Makes me think of this Alan Watts snippet.
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Looks like this AI generated and not the original Alan Watts. My apologies, I was bamboozled.
Alan Watts died in 1973 and yet this clip has him saying “scroll social media”. Only possible “social media” at the time of his death was email or a chatroom and those were in their infancy and the internet hadn’t been invented yet either. Methinks you may have been fooled.
EDIT: rephrasing
Inside the clip “HE” refers to himself in the 3rd person “Alan watts said once…” - it’s definitely Ai stealing his voice
I’m 99% sure the narration is AI-generated using Watts’s voice, and I don’t think it was quoting Watts directly. The on screen text needed quotation marks to show what, if any, words were taken directly from Watts. Misleading, yes, but I don’t think intentionally so.
I got the impression the first half is Watts proper and the second half is ai to put a modern spin on it. I didn’t hate it tbh. Provoked emotion from me as it really hits the nail.
Boy howdy, do I have a book suggestion for you…
Well… What is it? Lol
Is it Mein Kampf? Don’t say Mein Kampf.
What is your suggestion?
