Uhh aliens would be inevitably universally omnicidal just in case some other aliens are omnicidal, shut up nerd
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all alien theories are pretty :so-true: brained, IMO. Until we have a better picture of how common life is or isn’t, and how long it typically lasts or doesn’t before being wiped out by cosmic phenomena, any answer to Fermi’s Paradox is just people projecting their vibe onto the question. Star Trek is an optimistic answer, Dark Forest a pessimistic one, etc.
I didn’t know what this was so I googled it and read “The universe is a dark forest. Every civilization is an armed hunter stalking through the trees like a ghost, gently pushing aside branches…” and this already sounds like the dorkiest bullshit ever
For me its really cringe, I prefer the solution that says we are likely the first aliens because of the age and lack of (any) neibors in the universe but how its interesting is how they use a statistical model to prove that.
Change the framework and it sounds very stupid too.
“The protean environment is a dark forest. Every prokaryotic cell is an armed hunter stalking through the magma vents like a ghost, gently pushing aside clouds…”
Colonizers love to come up with narratives about how genocide is actually inevitable
yes thank god someone else is saying it. everyone always acts like it’s the smartest shit they’ve ever heard when it’s pretty poorly thought out.
what if you were a civilization that made von neumann probes and sent them out to every star system in 100 light years. If you found someone with technology you don’t have to send the signal directly back to your home world, you can bounce it between a dozen probes at different stars before sending it home and no one will know where you live.
these nerds have never heard of a VPN I guess.
Part of the plot of the book Chindi, actually. Humanity discovers a stealth observation satellite that’s hundreds of thousands of years old, of alien make, and follows its broadcast path along multiple other satellites in multiple other systems, before discovering a gargantuan automated museum ship sent off by a forgotten civilization as part of a millenia-long documentation project.
these nerds have never heard of a VPN I guess.
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I always preferred the Veil of Madness theory, where we’re in the middle of a space anomaly which drives all sophonts violently insane, and we’re the only species which has ever formed a functional(-ish) civilization within that zone.
it also makes no fuckin sense as a metaphor. U ever been in a dark forest? it’s loud as fuck.
Omisidal aliens but so bad at being omicidal they never accidentally omniside themselves.
We are omnicidal and and there is like a 50-50 chance our species will last long enough to be noticeable on a geological timescale
If capitalism is not a great filter, the universe is likely a dark forest, or at least should be treated as one until communist aliens are found.
If capitalism is a great filter, contact with aliens is humanity’s best hope of not blowing itself up.
communist aliens […] contact with aliens is humanity’s best hope
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If capitalism is a great filter,
It has to be. I mean, how does a capitalist society without the automation needed to permanently consolidate power over its underclasses and or replace them expand into space without collapsing? And that level of automation would lead to a collapse anyway. It just doesn’t seem likely for a capitalist civilization to become spacefaring.
