wisdomchicken

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wisdomchicken OP ,

i thought you made a fair point, and you were right to be confused, so figured id just address it directly

wisdomchicken ,

i ddos my wordpress-activitypub-enabled website every time i boost a post made from there to my 10k followers. tried every single caching plugin for it as well.

activitypub scaling is a very real issue

wisdomchicken OP ,

open social web is used here as a descriptive term, to mean the collection of networks that includes activitypub, atproto, nostr (and potentially more like matrix and farcaster, depending on your inclination).

whether open social web is the correct term or not does not really matter, because if it was not than i would simply have to replace it with another term that describes the exact same thing

wisdomchicken OP ,

yeah, there are two aspects to this: what do you think is beneficial for the ecosystem, and what do people do in practice. And those are largely different things, turns out.

I think you can make a pretty good case why it would be beneficial for ecosystem development to have protocols more standardised. But that also kinda doesnt matter much, because in an open network you dont have control over what other people are doing.

Bluesky has a much more structured protocol, and much more control over their protocol and anyone in the fediverse has over activitypub. Still, the first thing that people do is tweak the protocol. The three most successful other products on atproto (tangled, streamplace and roomy) all significantly modify the protocol to fit their own needs, theoretical arguments be damned

wisdomchicken OP ,

ah great, thats exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!

wisdomchicken OP ,

ohh indeed some interesting recommendation system in there, thanks!

Growth narratives on the new social networks ( connectedplaces.online )

Communities on alternative social media platforms like the fediverse and Bluesky tend to create narratives about how their networks grow. For both networks the narrative is fairly similar: Big Tech platforms and their leaders behave badly, which in turn causes users to search for more ethical alternatives. This narrative is ...

wisdomchicken ,

very curious what server you are on? im on a server with 1k active users, so not big by any measure, and manually counted the federated timeline just now, and it shows at least 50 new posts per minute. like how do you even use that? do you just watch it until an interesting account pops up on there? im very confused by this idea of using federated timeline to find people

wisdomchicken ,

because hosting a full-network relay is super cheap, including bandwidth. there are multiple people who are running full-network relays (monitoring and relaying everything from every PDS) for less than 30USD per month

https://fediversereport.com/atmosphere-report-116/

wisdomchicken ,

i think the main takeaway is that the fediverse has hugely overindexed on relays being this big huge centralising force in the atproto network. And thats simply not true at all. The flipside of that is that relays also dont really matter much either. All they do is simply aggregating from a distributed network of data storage into a single firehose. Its really cool that you can do that for super cheap. but its also just a small part of the entire network architecture. like, atproto relays are not CDNs, for example, and video CDNs are expensive to run.

wisdomchicken ,

Loops is not open source lmao, its just Dansup promising that he'll opensource it in an eventual future.

Saying "this platform is not actually open because the people running it are bad, come to these actually open platforms", and then proceed to list a closed-source platform is incredibly funny

wisdomchicken ,

There are multiple other relays running, and its pretty cheap nowadays, lowest I've seen is someone running a full network non-archive relay for 23usd/month

https://bsky.app/profile/edavis.dev/post/3lfdtegyzs22i

wisdomchicken ,

do you have a link by any change to where the dev is saying that? it seems very likely considering the lack of activity, but cant find anything on his profile or blog

wisdomchicken ,

A post from Mastodon, that's supposed to reach all the Fediverse ( social.heise.de )

This post can reach not only #Mastodon & the #Fediverse, but beyond like #Bluesky. How far can it go? I have built a tool to aggregate, with what software and from which instance it is boosted (or faved). Please share far, to show where you're seeing this. ...

wisdomchicken ,

hello from piefed!

wisdomchicken ,

PieFed represent! Highly recommended, the 'Topics' feature that aggregates multiple community is super valuable to me