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Digg founder Kevin Rose offers to buy Pocket from Mozilla

Robert Kevin Rose (born 1977) is an American Internet entrepreneur who co-founded Revision3, Digg, Pownce, and Milk. He also served as production assistant and co-host at TechTV's The Screen Savers. From 2012 to 2015, he was a venture partner at GV. ...

.@mozilla @Pocket -- we love Pocket at @digg, happy to take it over and continue to support your users for years to come! cc: @peterrojas :)
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It's going to re-launch soon

tsugu OP ,
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Thank you, and fair enough.

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I understand that people treat snap as if it was a contagious virus but the developers chose the method purposely. A lot of KDE apps are only distributed as snaps for example, k3b comes to mind. VLC as well.

There are flatpak versions but they aren't official, which defeats the point a bit.

I do however plan to somehow add the ability to prefer flatpak, since a few of the entries have both a flatpak and snap field.

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Those are all official sources tho, but you have to trust me not to put in malicious commands of course.

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Yep. I did automate it the best I could (I'm not creating entries for thousands of apps manually) but it will indeed require manual maintenance as the apps will change their installation methods over time.

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But why choose snap only? Flatpak works on Ubuntu just fine, and on other distros obviously, so they could just choose that. Blender only officially support snap too. Vivaldi for example made a blog post about how snap has better sandboxing of chromium. https://social.vivaldi.net/@ruario/113164179328218870

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Could you elaborate? I'm not the best programmer so I'm open to suggestions.

tsugu OP ,
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That's a good point. I will also probably need a better update method than rm -rf-ing the files and replacing them with each update.

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It's meant for people who prefer their apps from the official sources rather than repackaged. All this script dies is make it easy so you don't have to google the app's name and search for an install method on its website.

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If you want to build from source, this brings nothing of value. Nix has pretty much everything.

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I like to get software directly from the developers, and this just makes it easier. I don't want to compile anything, and I don't mind any of the package formats. I just don't like that every app uses a different one so it's a pain in the ass to install them.

Whether you trust the list not to execute malicious commands is up to

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Well then that has nothing to do with Canonical forcing developers to use snap if they want to appear in the software centre.

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That's understandable. Truth be told I probably wouldn't trust this either if I didn't make it. Anything can be hiding in the custom field.

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What do you mean by stagnated? I don't keep up with its development but it seems pretty feature-complete.

If developers move on to something else I will modify the database accordingly. But as long as snap and flatpak are the official methods they will stay.

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Well guess what, I don't use or want to use Arch. Pretty sure there's a nix recipe too, possibly a Void or FreeBSD one too. They aren't maintaind by KDE itself.

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Android works much better, no doubt in that regard, but I think the chance of this script breaking your system is very low. The vast majority of the apps are flatpaks, then snaps, tarballs, AppImages, and only then a few .debs. I try to avoid them because even if you are on Debian/Ubuntu after a few years your version will stop being supported, whereas snaps will continue to work for 10 years.

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This is concerning. Hopefully they manage to keep it running as if the standard for packaging software on Linux disappears, companies would return to tarballs.

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I like the separation between system packages and apps. A random system library being out of date doesn't matter to me as long as it receives security patches. But I will not use out of date GUI apps when I don't have to.

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Could you link some of those other options? I tried searching for something similar and found nothing. I know about LURE which got abandoned and didn't have the same goal.

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I did check it out and it's really cool, but here's the big difference
https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/730055cd-1abf-4162-af35-1ab7a5494c83.png

I want to install audacity and it ran all of the commands for search via the package managers. My script will do this:

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/828603a9-e4e4-4760-8797-8df5eaa6eff8.png

Check the database and finds an entry I made, because as it turns out, the only official audacity package is an AppImage built for Ubuntu 22.04. So it launches a command that retrieves the latest AppImage even if I don't update the database as it tries to fetch the latest version number and download the appimage based on that.

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/ab5a6f04-d607-45d0-9416-15cfb9782fc0.png

Ignore the .1, this is from a VM I test the app on and it's a mess

TLDR: mpm runs search commands for all package manager, my script's database was created manually. This means a lot of apps will be missing but when I come across something that's not there, I add it. Whether this approach is a good idea in the long run, I don't know. I just felt like creating a proof of concept of the idea.

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Which one?

tsugu OP ,
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I very much hope not. Luckily they seem to be doing well.

tsugu ,
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Everything else is FOSS besides the server and snaps can even be installed locally. I wrote a section of an article about most of the complaints. Most of the complaints I hear are just elitistic bullshit that makes new users confused and spreads misinformation.

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I require context.

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!lemmysilver

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I can thank global warming I suppose. We used to have snow but now if there's any it immediately melts. Not a huge fan of snow either.

tsugu ,
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Nobody gave a fuck when Launchpad was open sourced. People just demand and demand and when a company does the thing they don't care.

tsugu ,
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I heard this before. Is it because of its documentation?

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I have to ask, when was the last time you even looked at a screenshot of Ubuntu? That script is from the Unity era. The first lines remove a shopping lense. Not a thing since 2016. And even if it was still somehow valid which it's not, it's mostly hardening the OS. Yes, stock Ubuntu is not an impenetrable fortress. No distro is.

Also the stupid script removes a local logging service which is not used anymore either, but here's a thread about it https://askubuntu.com/questions/180990/what-is-zeitgeist-used-for

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I try to see the world and everything in it for what it really is. I don't believe in fate, god, karma, souls, etc. The way I see it, I'm depressed and don't enjoy life because I'm just a collection of electrical signals/chemical processes inside of my brian. And my brain is fucked. I can't relate to people who genuinely enjoy life. I get sparks of happyness but spend most of the time being miserable.

Another personal reasons for why I don't enjoy life is change. I know that no change = no progress = boredom, but I still despise it. And look at that, literally everything in life changes all the fucking time. Loved ones die, pets die, the tech I love slowly dies out.

And then there is the looming threat of dying at any moment because I'm a fragile organism that can die even while sleeping. That terrifies me to no end. Just suddenly not existing. And yes I have watched motivational videos advocating for why we shouldn't fear death. I'm not buying it.

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If life isnt enjoyable, would disappearing really make a difference?

I think I wouldn't mind being dead, as I couldn't feel anything anyways. But existing and then suddenly not even knowing I don't exist sounds very scary. When I forget what I was thinking about a few seconds ago, at least I know that I did forget about something. I think the fear stems from the fact that no one can even imagine how death feels like. Sleeping or being in a coma isn't even close as it feels like a time skip.

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But then you wake up right away. You weren't conscious for hours bu for you it felt instant. We really can't image it.

tsugu ,
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So is android and many other technologies we rely on everyday.

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He is a true CEO of Linux. Has no clue about what he's doing but he's very confident. He should've at least read a tiny bit about how this works. Such as, you can't go and install apt packages without updating your system first, or else you will run into issues. You also can't use a GUI apt frontend as well as apt via the command line. Some of the errors he encountered are totally Ubuntu's fault tho, such as the broken installer.

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Firefox is literally not in Ubuntu's repos anymore. They didn't want to maintain it as Mozilla agreed to just make the Snap version that works across all Ubuntu versions and anywhere else.

What should the command do? Just fail? Instead it clearly tells you it's downloading the snap of Firefox.

In fact if it was up to me I would just get rid of most GUI apps from the repos that have a snap/flatpak equivalent.