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@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

what bitmap font editors do folks like using?

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@lisyarus @alchemicacht I mean, I’ve considered it too. Are there existing tools for taking an atlas and chopping it into a bdf/otb/whatever?

@zwarich@hachyderm.io avatar zwarich , to random

@joe I started writing some code in the "flow-sensitive explicit tag" style of struct/variant types, and the main feature I was missing was the ability to force downstream consumers to consider new fields. Obviously, you could still have both explicit tags and pattern matching that desugars into them, but it hurts the case a bit.

The other thing I noticed with the explicit tag approach is a bit more syntactic: you are forced to define an enum for the tag and then define the variant type and repeat all of the tag members again. You could probably just add some syntax to generate the tag type from the list of variants in the struct.

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@zwarich you could spin this as a "developer choice" issue, perhaps, in the same way that using switch vs. if-else chains are commonly used in swift, the former for when you intend to exhaustively handle the state, the latter for ad-hoc unexhaustive logic

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@zwarich i was thinking after our last thread, that in a language where you had flow-sensitive tagging, you might also want to have something like F#'s active patterns to implement exhaustive and/or mutually exclusive condition checks. in an all-coroutines or all-CPS language you could model this as a routine that returns/yields to one of several different after states

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@zwarich as dave has been adamantly arguing on the swift forums, you can get pretty far with just coroutines. i used to think that way too, and if you're willing to accept limitations you probably can. the limits we ran into on that path in swift come when you start to have second-order lifetime dependencies, or you want to treat the references themselves as first-class values in order to do imperative-style refinement of references in loops etc.

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@zwarich you should ask Dave if he's hiring

we pretty quickly wanted to discriminate "trivial" and "nontrivial" accesses in swift based on whether any actual work needs to be done after you resume the notional coroutine. that way, you can e.g. get the Span over the elements of an Array and pass it around without it carrying either a lifetime dependency on the coroutine context or a capture of that context. so you can take a [[T]] and collect a [Span<T>] without piling dynamic cleanups

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@zwarich but maybe coroutines/CPS give you a way to allow for the ergonomics of reference updating without going so far as to treat the reference as a separate mutable value. you can treat popping an element off of the front of a span reference as a shadowing binding rather than a mutation of the reference binding, and make sure that when your for loop equivalent tail-recurs, it's the last shadowed binding that gets passed along to the next iteration

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@pervognsen @zwarich I think c# ref structs are a good example of a “simpler model” that works well in practice. I think it helps C# that there’s a GC you can fall back to, and I think that’s Dave’s attitude as well; for the hard stuff you can just accept the copies, and let the sufficiently smart optimizer reduce them

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

as a fan of e-ink, folding keyboards, and obscure gadgets, i can't believe the Pomera DM-30 exists and combines all three

a Pomera DM-30 portable note taker, featuring a 6" e-ink screen and a trifold keyboard
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@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

Ćań śómeóńę hełp. I aććidęńtałły usęd thę Appłę Półiśhińg Ćłóth óń my kęybóard ańd ńów it wóń't stóp typińg łikę thiś

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

The following APIs are depreciated. If your app uses them, remember to claim them on your taxes

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

if Intel x86 processors had consistent versioning (inspired by @kemona_halftau@sharkey.skydevs.me avatar kemona_halftau : stolen for alt text )

8086,8087,8088,8089,8090,8091,8092,8093,8094 80086,80186,80286,80386,80486,80586,80686,80786,80886 iAPX 086,iAPX 186,iAPX 286,iAPX 386,iAPX 486,iAPX 586,iAPX 686,iAPX 786,iAPX 886 086,186,286,386,486,586,686,786,886 ,Nilium,Unium,Deuterium,Tritium,Quartium,Pentium,Sexium,Septium,Octium Pentium -IV,Pentium -III,Pentium -II,Pentium -I,Pentium Zero,Pentium I,Pentium II,Pentium III,Pentium IV Pentium -4,Pentium -3,Pentium -2,Pentium -1,Pentium 0,Pentium 1,Pentium 2,Pentium 3,Pentium 4
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@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

as a fan of compilers, weird DSLs, and legacy systems, i enjoyed this extremely thorough documenting of quirks in the windows resource compiler https://www.ryanliptak.com/blog/every-rc-exe-bug-quirk-probably/

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in order to cope with today's DRAM pricing crisis, i propose we look to the solutions of the past

photo of a 3 1/2 inch floppy disk for Connectix RAM Doubler 2, for Macintosh
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all these new generation copy-on-write filesystems, and yet no one has been brave enough to name theirs simply "cowfs". then they could call the package containing its mkfs, fsck, etc. "cowtools"

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so after learning that

  • any utf-16 code unit can be a drive letter
  • drive letters are case insensitive

I can only wonder, can you put a drive symbolic link at \??\SS: and then use it as the ß: drive

https://www.ryanliptak.com/blog/windows-drive-letters-are-not-limited-to-a-z/

@zwarich@hachyderm.io avatar zwarich , to random

@joe Is there anything you would change about Swift’s gaggle of if let-related features if you could?

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@zwarich it would be great to have a system that was better integrated with normal conditional expressions so they aren’t so much of a special case. effect handlers seem like a good thing to try. the way verse does conditions might be the closest thing in a mainstream-shaped language that I know of

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@zwarich the UCS is cute, but it also seems like a lot of special casing for conditions, pushing them further away from being first-class expressions. i also wonder how much juice you really get out of it in messy real-world code where the conditions don't nicely line up. even ML style pattern matching seems like it drops off quick once you go past matching out the cases of a sum type

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@dotstdy @zwarich I would like to see the “conditional bindings are definitely used downstream of their conditions” and “all cases in this state space are handled by this condition tree” properties of a pattern match, but with the flexibility of ad hoc conditional expressions

@slava@mathstodon.xyz avatar slava , to random

Programmers have finally realized that a single function call can bring down an entire process, even in an allegedly “safe” language.

Just wait until they discover their compilers (especially the newfangled “systems languages with value types” that are so hot right now) have been lying to them this whole time by pretending that stack space is an endless resource, without providing any tools whatsoever for reasoning about how much of it they’re actually using

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@slava You call your language safe, and yet it still has exit. Curious.

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@slava Maslow’s hierarchy of software correctness:

the program is memory safe -> the program is panic-safe -> the program is proven correct -> the program no longer needs to exist

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

your computers so old, its clock speed is measured in backhertz

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Our innovative new CD-ROM technology doesn’t need a laser at all—we use an LLM to predict the contents of the disc. Introducing the world’s first sloptical drive

@cliffle@hachyderm.io avatar cliffle , to random

Well! I've definitely seen my share of "idiosyncratic" C styles omitting braces and exploiting corner cases in 30+ years of having to read other peoples' C code, but this is a new one.

I had not thought about what would happen if you left the braces off a switch. Because, of course, doing so would be utterly unhinged.

I give you: the world's most obtuse version of "if (x == A || x == b)", indistinguishable from an editing mistake.

switch (header->header.linkflag) case LF_BLK: case LF_CHR: st->st_dev = makedev(from_oct(8, header->header.devmajor), from_oct(8, header->header.devminor));
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joe ,
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@cliffle that's my favorite way to print a comma-separated list

switch (i = 0, count) for (; i < count; ++i) {
printf(", ");
default:
printf("%d", elements[i]);
case 0:;
}

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

Big Tech to base performance reviews on Cow Tools adoption

@thephd@pony.social avatar thephd , to random

Finally getting around to listening to the Wookash Podcast where defer is, apparently, mentioned. I guess I should listen to this thing in ful-- oh my god it's two hours?? Well, time for the 2x speed buff.

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@thephd at least typeof gets you halfway there, since you can write typeof(type specifier) foo; all the time instead of the usual entangled declaration-and-type syntax

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@thephd "Remove the arrow operator, just make the dot operator do the dereference."

i dunno why more languages don't just adopt the pascal style postfix dereference, so that dereferencing and . are nice and orthogonal and you don't need a third operator

@mcc@mastodon.social avatar mcc , to random

Okay so imagine I take this graph of investment relationships between AI companies, and I separately take the network architecture diagram for the Bluesky "Atmosphere Protocol", and I'm able to show the graphs are isomorphic. What have I just proven

https://social.coop/@eloquence/115340124760759142

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@mcc so much capital has been concentrated into so few hands that our entire economy and society is Conway's-law-ing to match their social graph?

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

we always hear about the reality distortion field, but what about reality compressor, reality chorus, reality reverb, or reality wah-wah pedal

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

language is all about communication. if you wrote it, and your compiler accepts it, then it's real C code

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

to use this feature, enclose the expression in angel brackets.
"uh you mean angle brackets?"
absolutely not. ꙮx + 1ꙮ

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

Have you tried self-hosting? It's on Docker. It's literally on Yunohost. It's on Cloudron with ads. You can probably host it on PikaPods. Dude it's on Elestia. It's a Zeabur original. It's on ClawCloud. You can run it on ClawCloud. You can go to ClawCloud and run it. Log onto ClawCloud right now

screenshot of the "Automated install" section of a github readme for a project, which is a bunch of brand links to various cloud hosting services including Docker, Yunohost, Cloudron, PikaPods, ...
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@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

American McGee’s Alice sends a message with her public key to American McGee’s Bob. However, American McGee’s Mallory intercepts th

joe OP ,
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@pervognsen maybe it’s his Microsoft Bob theme

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

these looked great next to the PowerBook G5
https://wetdry.world/@michi/115148000792883172

old meme image of what a "PowerBook G5" would look like, where the base of the laptop is extremely thick to accommodate its massive cooling requirements
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@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run avatar hipsterelectron , to random

wow wait holy shit the cpython native heap object gc protocol is actually part of the fucking module api!!!!!!

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@hipsterelectron i guess i'm going to be That Guy who points out that, well actually, underscored identifiers in C are reserved to the implementation, and it's UB to use them in non-standard-library code

@mcc@mastodon.social avatar mcc , to random

The term blue generally describes colours perceived by humans observing light with a dominant wavelength that's between approximately 450 and 495 nanometres.

joe ,
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@mcc would be funny if the pages for “Gray” and “Grey” were exactly the same except that the former uses “color” and the latter “colour”

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

C++? You mean the language where a &lt;= b is the "a implies b" operator?

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yet another reason C should've used -1 as the true value instead of 1

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

is there a clever way to represent an intrusive linked list FIFO queue that allows node reuse but doesn’t also need special handling of the empty case? the usual trick of using the last popped node as the head pointer falls apart if you try to reinsert that node as the tail

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

Our new design language features crisp right angles, giving the feeling of precision while allowing your content to reach all the way into the corners of our trademark Rectangular displays. Solid colors clearly delineate controls, furthering that feeling of precision while allowing your content to stand out, all while providing ready access to the tools you need. We call it Solid Metal

a screenshot of FrameMaker 2.0d running on NeXTSTEP
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@mcc@mastodon.social avatar mcc , to random

Gonna try for the next week to use Kagi exclusively ( https://mastodon.social/@mcc/115091159393716373 ).

Off the bat observations:

  • Search queries visibly take longer to load in than on Google. When I use the search engine as a calculator, it takes much longer
  • Layout doesn't do as much of I'd like of what I call "reducing cognitive load". Results run together a little. I wish I could make the blue in links slightly deeper.
  • Wow it is inconvenient to redirect four devices using three OSes to use a new search engine
joe ,
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@mcc if you use firefox no since you can just use its custom search engine support. otherwise it provides extensions for less cooperative browsers to send your queries to kagi by default

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@mcc hmm, i use kagi all the time with (desktop) firefox and uBlock origin and have never seen that. dunno about mobile though

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@thephd@pony.social avatar thephd , to random

You hear that Mr. Kernighan? ... That is the
sound of inevitability... It is the sound
of improvement...
It's time, Mr. Kernighan....

A screenshot of a mail sent to the gcc-patches mailing list on August 2nd, 2025, with the subject: [PATCH 0/4] implement defer statements as per ts 25755 https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2025-August/691461.html
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@thephd all aboard the chemin defer

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

nice https://reviews.freebsd.org/differential/changeset/?ref=1420532

"== Artificial Intelligence and Large Language Models Contributions Policy The FreeBSD project has a long-standing focus on license compatibility, and appropriate attribution of source code. AI and LLMs, by their nature, are unable to provide the necessary assurance, that the generated material is compatible with the FreeBSD license, or that the material has been appropriately attributed to the original authors. Thus, it is expressly forbidden to contribute material generated by AI, LLMs, and similar technologies, to the FreeBSD project. This includes, but is not limited to, source code, documentation, commit messages, or any other areas of the project."
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@joe@f.duriansoftware.com avatar joe , to random

is it just me or does "forgejo" look like it should be pronounced as a spanish word

joe OP ,
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@pervognsen no me forgejes, por favor

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this OS upgrade could've been a kaleidoscope theme

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@mcc first thing i did when i got a working Haiku install was change the widget colors, since pretty much no mainstream desktop environment lets you do so anymore