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chobeat OP ,

quitting doesn't halt the baby-grinding machine. Big tech can only be stopped from the inside. I even know some people getting hired there exclusively to cause trouble. You should respect their commitment rather than anything else.

chobeat ,

There is a Real beyond our perceived reality, which is independent from observation, but doesn't seep through the observation. Anything that reaches the conscious mind stops being objective. The Real is experienced only when our reality is shattered by an intervention of the Real. In scientific terms, the internal consistence of an epistemology doesn't bring you close to the truth, but it just makes itself more resistant to the Real. Eventually the whole paradigm is shattered by something that cannot be encompassed in the epistemology and you can assume what was left outside is the Real intervening. Once the epistemology is consolidated, the bounds of what you can know are already set and are not objective, but depending on the epistemology itself, which is always partial.

chobeat ,

ah no yeah, I agree, you can only experience the reflection. The Real punches you in the face but you don't feel the punch, you just wake up on the floor without recollection of what happened.

chobeat ,

this feels a lot like a rediscovery of constructivism?

chobeat ,

can't promise I will have time to read it, but feel free

chobeat ,

don't attract individuals, attract entire groups of people. The idea of moving humans one by one when all of their friends are on centralized platforms will only attract lonely people, who won't be able to promote the platform. The growth will eventually halt.

Move entire communities that are already connected: specific identities, followers of famous people (which should be onboard with the plan), specific subreddits and so on.

chobeat OP ,

spotify has a whole economy of bots signing up, uploading fake songs listened by other bots and earning lot of money in the process. I know several people living out of this. A little army of scraper bots is definitely not what they should be the most concerned about.

chobeat OP ,

since botting is so easy, probably they used a lot of accounts to access data that, in theory, is somewhat public. I mean, in an ideal world in which engineers have infinite time sure, they would have noticed, but I do investigations on platform apps for work and trust me, they miss a lot of more fundamental stuff.