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2xar ,

I have a 5 year old android phone that I'm super happy with (still fast, OLED screen, cameras on par with current phones, 2 day battery life etc.). Apart from the fact that google has started to kill it. E.g they won't allow banking apps to be installed, because it's android 11.
So One+ was one of the brands on the shortlist for my next phone. Guess they're off now.

2xar ,

I mean, a devil with hooves would be a better president than Trump. It could do much less damage.

But Newsom? Yea, he's also right around there somewhere. He is a 100% just another puppet for the same billionares as Trump is (Thiel, Tech bros, Murdoch, Bibi etc.).

Nothing would change for the better under him. The ultra-rich would keep on getting richer, while everyone else would keep on sliding down. Fully 2/3 of the US citizens now live paycheck to paycheck. Both Trump and Newsom would be mainly working on bringing this up to 95-99%. Which would be causing even more (well deserved) unrest. And so Newsom would/is blaming the migrants for this, just the same. I mean, somebody has to be the scapegoat, so people don't realise the rich would need to be taxed. And migrants are the obvious, already well-propagandised choice. Maybe ICE would murder and brutalise a few less people under Newsom, but even that is not guaranteed.

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As Donald Trump shatters the global rules-based order, official institutions (and private investors) are scrambling to buy gold: the share of the asset in central banks’ reserves has doubled in the past decade to more than a quarter, the highest level in almost 30 years. ...

2xar ,

Protest. Protest. Protest. It's inconvinient and maybe even dangerous to make banners, find the closest protest against MAGA and get out on the streets (peacefully). But it is your best bet to stop this regime from fully building a fascist dictatorship. If the regime wins, it will be bad for us (in Europe, and generally around the world). But for you, it will be catastrophic.

2xar OP ,

Yep. J2C has struck DDR5.

2xar ,

Right? They were pretty easy to follow. So easy that I've noticed about a dozen plotholes in them. Maybe these plotholes were confusing people, because they thought there would be a good explanation to them, that they are not getting. Nope, there aren't. They are just full of plotholes.

2xar ,

I hate you.

2xar , (edited )

Your logic is critically flawed. By your logic you could argue that there is no "logical way to argue a human has consciousness", because we don't have a precise enough definition of consciousness. What you wrote is just "I'm 14 and this is deep" territory, not real logic.

In reality, you CAN very easily decide whether AI is conscious or not, even if the exact limit of what you would call "consciousness" can be debated. You wanna know why? Because if you have a basic undersanding of how AI/LLM works, than you know, that in every possible, concievable aspect in regards with consciusness it is basically between your home PC and a plankton. None of which would anybody call
conscious, by any definition. Therefore, no matter what vague definition you'd use, current AI/LLM defintiely does NOT have it. Not by a longshot. Maybe in a few decades it could get there. But current models are basically over-hyped thermostat control electronics.

2xar ,

I'm not talking about a precise definition of consciousness, I'm talking about a consistent one.

Does not matter, any which way you try to spin it, any imprecise or "inconsistent" definition anybody would want to use, literally EVERYBODY with half a brain will agree that humans DO have consciousness and a rock does not. A squid could be arguable. But LLMs are just a mm above rocks, and lightyears below squids on the ladder towards consciousness.

The problem is that I have more than a basic understanding of how an LLM works. I've written NNs from scratch and I know that we model perceptrons after neurons.

Yea. The same way Bburago models real cars. They look somewhat similar, if you close one eye and squint the other and don't know how far each of them are. But apart from looks, they have NOTHING in common and in NO way offer the same functionality. We don't even know how many different types of neurons are, let alone be close to replicating each of their functions and operations:

https://alleninstitute.org/news/why-is-the-human-brain-so-difficult-to-understand-we-asked-4-neuroscientists/

So no, AI/LLMs are absolutely and categorically nowhere near where we could be lamenting about whether they would be conscious or not. Anyone questioning this is a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect, by having zero clue about how complex brains and neurons are, and how basic, simple and function-lacking current NN technology is in comparison.

2xar , (edited )

The sad thing is, we've already had this figured out before.

15-20 years ago Google was almost perfect. It completely blew my mind how accurate and fast it was. Many times it felt like it was a mind-reader. I didn't even type in half my question and it was already auto-completing it and showing the results, the first few of which contained a very exact and detailed answer that someone wrote on a forum somewhere or an article that gave me a complete and correct answer. Remember the old 'I'm feeling lucky' button which directly took you to the first search result? Yea, it was pretty usable back then, because the first result was usually correct. Pepperidge farm 'members...

And then the enshittification started by pumping the site full of ads. First the ads were pretty distinguishable from the real results and you could just scroll through them. Then they started to disguise the ads more and more like real results, and just showing more of them. And by now I think google is basically ONLY ads. There are NO real results on it. Virtually the only 'content' you are shown are what somebody has payed for google to show. Even if what you are looking for is a very well known, public interest fact, if nobody is paying for it, google is not going to show it.
E.g. the other day google could not find me the website of a country-wide utility company for electricity by typing their exact name, because I guess they haven't paid their monthly ads for google.

Luckily there are other alternatives to google, which still have 'don't do evil' in their corporate philosophy. None of them are close to as good as google used to be, especially if you are not searching in english. But still a hell of a lot better than how google is now.

2xar ,

There is no right shade of brown to them.

2xar , (edited )

Have you ever mistakenly payed for having sex with an underage girl? No? Me neither. Nor did literally anyone I know. See how easy it is to avoid?

2xar OP ,

Glad I could help

2xar OP , (edited )

Yeah, I agree, that is also very important. But I still think that getting rid of Pelosi and the other ghouls in the DNC would/could be the most important thing right now. The Democratic Party desperately needs a renewal, a progressive reform and to embrace real left-wing, socialist politics to save the middle class from sliding down and help poor people to break out - as opposed to give in to every wish and whim of billionaire oligarchs who are stealing literally all wealth from the rest of society.

The whole 'let's follow the republicans further and further to the right to grab the centrist's votes' idea clearly is not working. It is not making peoples' lives better (except for the oligarchs). And it is not even helping democrats win elections and secure power any more.

Appeasement didn't work against the nazis, why would it work against MAGA?

But unfortunately Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries and the rest of these cronies are all absolutely hellbent on keeping up with the appeasement. They all need to retire or get primaried, or the US is lost to fascism for who knows how many decades.

2xar OP ,
2xar OP ,

That's why I've put her only on second place from the top. It's a nice thing that she's flipped a seat, but it's not gonna start a reform of the party. The reform is gonna come from Mamdani's win and Pelosi's retirement.

2xar ,

The OA

2xar ,

Land of the free, ladies and gentleman.

2xar ,

They are not anti-estabilishment. They are pro russian/soviet estabilishment. They are trying to build soviet type dictatorships whit Putin's help and guidance, using his propaganda talking points, propaganda distribution machine and doing his bidding.

Also, they are not listening to voters at all. They are propagating and instilling fear and hatred in the voters. Because fearful and hateful people can be easily manipulated. So they are manufacturing this voter base, by spreading an unimaginable amount of fake news and propaganda, until the more susceptible layer of society gets brainwashed into their rhetoric.

And once they are brainwashed and terrorized by imaginary monsters and shadow figures (Soros, jews, migrants etc.), they are locked in. They are in a cult. Their mind is fully closed down, their vote locked in to the far-right Putinist. Because at this point all contradictory information and evidence against their world view is just noise to them. They are not listening to any outside info at that point. Their brain is just constantly looping around the terror that they are living in: Soros, deep state, migrants, LGBTQ - all out to get them.

And their only saviour, the night in shining armour? The far-right extremist who promises to save them for all these imaginary monsters and phobias. Le-Pen, Farage, Fico etc.

And if they gain enough power to realize their authoritarian agenda, then your country is gone and flushed down they toilet.
I know what I'm talking about, greetings from Hungary.

2xar ,

Yeah, he was joking. But JFC, what a self important, egotistical prick! He manages to brag about him being the VP twice in under 30 seconds.

2xar ,

Then why are you writing like one?

2xar ,

When the state executes a convicted murderer, it is not terrorism. If someone murders their spouse out of jealousy, it's not terrorism. When a serial killer murders 10 people, it is still not usually terrorism.

But when a radical minority group wants to push their political/religious agenda and subdue, oppress the general population by randomly murdering a bunch of them - that IS terrorism.

All of the above are murders, but not all of them are terrorism.

The same is true for every other type of aggression, including doxing. They can be used for many things in many cases. They can be used as a means of oppression, or the oppressed can use them to fight back against oppression. Almost all forms of aggression can be used for the good of society (e.g. by the police against criminals, or by the revolutionists against their oppressors) and of course for bad reasons as well. It all depends on the situation.

So no, doxing does NOT equal terrorism. But it can be used as such.

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They're afraid!

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I think the health insurance companies are actually taken by surprise by the amount of people who sincerely wish them death. Maybe we will see some almost-meaningful change soon?

2xar , (edited )

Unfortunately I'm afraid this will only be a very short term gain for society. In the longer term CEO-s will just muscle-up. They'll hire a whole bunch more security and bodyguards, armored vehicles, taller, concrete fences around their properties and show their faces even less in public. All on company expense, so from our, their consumers' money of course. They will become even more isolated, secluded and cut off from society, more paranoid and resentful about the rest of us, mere 'plebs'.

I'm not saying I don't understand why people are celebrating. But I don't think that this murder will help steer back society, inequality and corporate greed into a healthier, better direction. Instead it is just another step along the path to the dystopian future shown in so-so many sci-fi literature and movies. Where 99% of society has been delegated to a complete slave-like status, with ZERO financial security, self-determination, healthcare access and freedom while they spend day and night labouring endlessly, just to not starve or freeze to death. Which they still might, if they get in an accident or an illness which bankrupts them.

Meanwhile the 1% will reap ALL the benefits from the work of all the rest of us and they'll live like no king has ever lived before. Possibly their lifes extended to hundreds of years, flying around the planet between their mansions from party to party.

Murdering one or two CEO-s will not prevent this future I think. We will need a much, much wider show of rejection of this future if we want to stop it. We will need protests, demonstrations and show of unity. The rich will try to prevent this in every possible way. They will call the protesters terrorists, fundamentalists. Police will treat them as criminals and jail or even kill many of them. But if the society-wide rejection of this dystopian future is not shown in full force, it WILL HAPPEN.

2xar ,

She most certainly isn't OK with it. She said she wants to end the war and have peace several times. She is not a sociopath, unlike Trump, so if she had the means, she would gladly stop supporting Israel with guns. Unfortunately, she does not - at the moment. Why does she not?

Because Israel and Bibi is supporting both Democrats and Republicans in the US elections, and has been for decades (although Bibi naturally leans towards Trump recently, as a fellow autocrat and dictator-wannabe). But Israel is actually lobbying for both sides and partially financing them, as well as having a lot of media under their control that can campaign for or attack any or both of them. They arguably can influence 1-2-3% of voters to swing one way or the other. And that is enough to keep both D and R parties/candidates on their sides, as the gap between the two parties are so small, that those few percents could easily decide the election.

So what would be a solution? If both D and R are dependent on Israel to win elections, what could be done?
Well, if one side would win by a huge margin, bigger than those few percents, than they would no longer need the political support from Israel.
Of, course, if this was Trump, he would still support them, because he likes other dictators and wannabe dictators, like Bibi, Putin, Orbán or Kim. They all help each other out against democratic countries.

But if Kamala would have a commanding win, that would actually enable her to not care about Israel's political support anymore and do the right thing: end military support for Israel and thus stop the genocide. Let's hope that she will have this power.

2xar , (edited )

I don't know which TV have you been watching, but you seriously have zero fucking clue about who Kamala Harris is.
She specifically just vowed to do everything to reach piece in Gaza:
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-election-2024-donald-trump-rhetoric-darkens-kamala-harris-vows-gaza-peace-in-final-hours-6938437

It's enough to whatch a few interviews with both Trump and Kamala to know about their character and where their heart is. None of them are particularly good liars, actually their both pretty bad at it. The difference is: Trump voters don't care at all how many lies he's telling them, so he does it constantly. Kamala's voters immediately start turning away from her when she's caught/seems to be lying, so she can't really afford to do it. It's the classic double standard between D and R candidates on all levels.^___^

2xar , (edited )

Organized religion is a really effective way and tool for brainwashing. Of course there are many other tools as well, but religion is probably the best one. That's why it's so popular.

Just like with guns. If you control and ban firerarms, there are still going to be some murders. But much-much less, because you take away the easiest way of commiting one.

2xar ,

Religious morality keeps changing as well. A few hundred years ago according to Christianity it was morally right to use black people as slaves, because they had no souls. Luckily, society has progressed and gradually it became immoral to enslave people all over the world. In the end, Christianity had no choice but to accept this - although it took some wars to convince them everywhere about it.

2xar ,

His point about Nazi's attacking the Church is also blatantly false BTW. Nazi's had a bit of a conflict with the Catholic church at the beginning, but they quickly reconciled and pretty much enabled them. Nazi's also created their own version of Christianity, the biggest difference to other branches being that they claimed Jesus wasn't actually jew, but of Aryan descent, and Hitler was the new Messiah:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

2xar ,

My post was actually about religion and I only used gun control as a theoretical comparison.

However, it seems funny to me that you start by stating that 'gun control is ineffective', and then proceed to describe gun control in great detail and praise it.

Gun control =/= banning all guns.

Dear Americans, how do you go back to normal after such an election campaign?

The atmosphere is so heated, and the statements are getting more and more extreme. Let's just assume Harris wins the election. After a campaign like this, how could you ever have a normal relationship with your pro-Trump neighbor/father-in-law/Uncle/Barber or what ever again?

2xar ,

The usual way to fix these things is civil war. Don't worry, you won't have to start it, the racists and fascists will do it for you. And then they'll get annihilated, like always.

This is because they may be loud, aggressive, greedy, hateful and boastful which all help them start and ramp up wars. But they are also stupid, cowardly, irrational, week minded and a minority, which make them loose these wars.

2xar ,

Both, of course.

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  • 2xar ,

    Literally everybody here gets this. It's in the fucking title of the post...
    And it is also exactly why everybody is hating on JB now and downvoting your comments. JB should have stood by his lifelong friend and creative partner, and care fuck all about the corporatist PR image after one bad joke. Especially because Kyle's joke wasn't a career endingly bad one. But JB made it out to be one. He has effectively killed KG's career now, by blowing the thing way out of proportion, completely unnecessarily. All because he thought that HIS career was in danger too. That is why everybody is angry at him now. He has acted 100% selfishly.

    What he should have done, if anything, was to say sthing like, "Kyle made a mistake, it was a joke in bad taste. But I've known him forever, I know he's a good man with a good heart. He will reflect on this and learn from it and do better in the future. An assassination attempt, and the death of an innocent bystander can never be a joke. We will dedicate the oncoming stages of the tour and all proceeds from it to the family of the victim. Blah blah blah". That's all JB had to do and say.

    Instead he threw KG totally under the bus, ended his career, and by making the morally wrong choice, probably damaged his own as well.

    2xar ,

    Stop trolling

    2xar ,

    What do you think would happen if the US would stop supporting Ukraine? Putin would just peacefully stop trying to conquer Ukraine? Or do you think ukrainians would just give up? They wouldn't. I live in a neighbouring country, i know many of them. They all know 100% that if Ukraine looses the war in any way, then Putin will completely exterminate every last one of them, that he can get his hand on. Just like he's been doing over the last two years.

    So by arguing that the US should stop it's support, you're directly and inseparably arguing for Putin to be able to genocide tens of millions of ukrainans, as well as for the complete destruction of Ukraine.

    This is why people are calling you a russian agent. Of course, it's unknowable for us, whether you are really are, but you are certainly doing their bidding for them.