I loved my pebble time steel, I was so hyped with all the features of the time 2... But after seeing that beautiful screen of the pebble round 2... I couldn't resist but to change my order. Some day I don't discard getting the time 2 as well but I'd rather have a round 2 plus, with all the features of the time 2 by making it thicker... Eric if you read around here please make one like that :D
Just cancelled my pre-order today, I just realised that I don't really need one after all... and I'm kinda tired of waiting. Yes, I could've probably sold it on eBay for a nice profit, but I'm not THAT kind of asshole.
That Index 01 is atrocious; shame on whoever bought one.
I don't have a particluar need for the Index 01, but I can imagine a good number of people that would benefit from it. Its not particularly glamours but I'm not seeing it as particularly offensive in styling either. What do you find atrocious about it?
It looks like Index 01 has a 2 year (24 month) battery. Apple airpods, while rechargable, have a unit life of 36 months or as short as 18 months (with heavy use).
I assume, following the same logic, airpods would be unethical? If so, in your opinion, how long should a device last before it wouldn’t be unethical?
Airpods batteries can be replaced, and parts are available on ifixit.
Index isn't released yet, so maybe there will be a ifixit page created for them. but if the silver oxide batteries are as bad as the ones my mom's hearing aids use, I can't see this thing lasting more than a year.
No matter what, whether it's pebble or apple, non-serviceable batteries are "atrocious" and "unethical". While expected from apple; it would be nice to expect more from pebble.
Instead of that kind of asshole you can be the kind that shames anyone getting something you don't understand. My first reaction to the ring was one of surprise, but not in a positive way. When I saw the video presentation by migikovsky I started to see certain appeal and use cases. Which made me bring up the ring to my wife.
My wife is diagnosed with ADHD and some other neurospicy stuff. I bought her a pebble together with mine, thinking it would be useful for her too, but she nearly never used it. I believe that ring might actually have a lot of worth for someone like her. When I told her about it, it surprised me how fast she was interested in the idea. Like she is the opposite of me with tech, not only she doesn't like tech and she is not particularly interested in anything related to it, but she has a negative aura around tech that somehow keeps making things malfunction in ways I cannot understand. Something this simple... Something she can forget about charging or anything... That is not terrible. With the theoretical duration of the battery, it might outlast many devices that can be charged and still get discarded after a while.
You don't need to want it or like it, to understand that others might find it useful.
The aspect of the unchargeable battery is a pity... But I can understand the decision making there even if I don't like it. Hopefully in a future version there is some way to include some wireless charging or something... Alternatively I would want to see a similar ring, but without the mic. Just a button, that connects to the pebble watch, to launched actions using the button. Could even just use the pebble's mic by pressing the button. I wonder how long the battery would last if the microphone is not used and just launches an action in the watch. There's a lot more depth to such a simple device than it appears.
There's absolutely no depth to the fact that the Index contributes to the already sky-high pile of e-waste by design. A device that isn't really that innovative; small voice recorders have existed for decades. Yes, it's convenient to have it in ring form I guess but having convenience at the cost of the environment is exactly the problem.
I didn't mean to offend anyone or be that harsh really, I just said that to vent my frustrations without thinking too much about it to be honest. I kinda do that from time to time. My apologies for that; it's something that I've been working on.
I mean, yeah. The idea isn't new and the product is already established. I wish they weren't on the course to burning themselves out again like like the old Pebble.
I kinda suspected that when I placed my order for the P2D (now the PT2, cause they "ran out of parts")... As long as I actually get my watch I don't really care
We have a better understanding of how Eric interacted with the App Store API, and we don’t think that he intended to “steal” from us there.
One of the things that we’ve understood from both our blog post and Eric’s is that we have real common ground: what matters to both of us is keeping the Pebble ecosystem alive and kicking. And from the community reaction, what we hear is clear: we can only do that by working together.
The situation cool down quite a bit after Pebble release 100% of their code which allows people to compile and run their own android app to talk with their pebbles. While there's still some misgivings and bad blood between rebble community and pebble at least nobody is pressing charges and throwing public accusations anymore. That's just my impression lurking in rebble discord server though.
Rebble is a group that acquired pebble IP from fitbit and later google, adding to an already big repo of apps and functionality, but more importantly making it open source.
When core devices started working with them, they apparently withheld some of the new firmware work from rebble, which violated the terms of the agreement and the license.
I really liked the original version of Android Wear that just used informative cards linked to supported apps on the phone. I can’t stand the new versions that are essentially a tiny phone strapped to my wrist. I am looking forward to getting the Pebble Round 2.
Eric self-funded Core Devices and likely doesn't want to take on what would effectively be personal liability. So I presume it will always be 30 days unless they get more leverage with their manufacturing contract (e.g. larger volumes)
Edit: Or I suppose if they earn back the initial investment and become fully sustainable, then maybe they'd be able to extend warranty and eat that cost themselves
Damn it, it is so pretty... I don't know what to do now, keep my time 2 order or change to this one....
The battery life of pt2 is so amazing though plus it has the speaker which may be handy or not... If the round 2 had a bit more battery (although a couple of weeks is not bad at all) or the speaker I wouldn't think it twice. But losing both things... Ugh if I could just go all in and get both...
That doesn't bother me at all given how inaccurate most smartwatches are for measuring heart rate. What does bother me is this uses glue while the Time 2 uses screws. It makes this much less repairable. Plus many apps and watch faces have better support for rectangular screens. I love the design enough that I switched my order, but I may still end up switching it back to the Time 2.
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