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  • In the US, I’m my experience, you typically have 10 to 15 minute conversation with hr(or separate agency) first. Basically this is for ensuring you will have a chance of fitting in. It’s not to test technical skills or abilities. For example and I had one recently where after basic greetings the rep said the job was local for 3 months and then expected about 95% of the time was international travel, was I ok with traveling that much? Long story short basically no. Meeting ended in about 5 minutes, never even met the hiring manager. I’m another case I met with a rep from an agency for a job, after the conversation he told me I would not be a good fit (basically it was a manual labor job and almost everyone spoke Spanish which I don’t). That said, he then said but I have another position you would fit and I ended up at that company for many years.

    They shouldn’t (and don’t in my experience) ask specific details. It’s not like “what is the timing offset on a Ford 438 engine?” or “how do you transform a spreadsheet of financial data to a presentation for management?” those are for the hirering manager. They ask questions like are you legally allowed to work here? Are you ok with travel requirements? Will you be able to communicate with coworkers? It’s short, basic and basically a screen to verify you are worth the manager time for the real interview.


  • vrek@programming.devtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldhe forgor
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    If people were obviously lying about their knowledge and abilities, I’d see how far they are willing to push it. “So how much experience do you have with python 4?“or” please write on this board how to do the well known programming problem fizz buzz, in sql”

    Depending on your office building, “please demonstrate how you would handle the sliding window problem?” let them write for a few minutes. When they are done tell them “incorrect” and then walk over and open the window in your office.

    Don’t actually do any of these. They would make you a huge asshole but it would be funny.





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    An ide is obviously an “intentional dog emoji”. You see someone showing their cat pictures and you tell them this is a dog environment.

    BTW yes I know it’s an integrated development environment which means basically a text editor, compiler, linker, debugger and in many cases linter. I’m also unemployed and looking for a job so…



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    Thanks. I guess it was rails and not ruby but still same idea. Rediculous that a creator doesn’t have enough experience. As I said I understand it’s probably hr and “people persons” writing stuff for “tech people”. Not an excuse just fact. It’s a sad, horrible fact. Anyways thanks for confirming my memory from years ago.


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    Agreed, sorta. The one caveat is that people hiring are typically hr, not technical people. In large companies they are there to fill out paperwork and limit company legal liability. They don’t need to know the difference between a unsigned char and a long variable in c.

    The people is charge should have hired better people to have those roles. Also whoever wrote those requirements messed up. I learned a long time ago there are basically 2paths forward professionally, technical and management. issues arise when then the needs of those two mix and the person doing so is not up to the challenge.

    People can design a 120 to 12 volt power supply on graph paper. Others can talk to 5 stake holders on a new product about what color the plastic container should be and have 1 answer and everyone happy that they won at the end. Both skill sets are valuable. The main issue is we, society, put so much value on the second group and severely limited the potential of the first.

    Also the correct color is blue 😋





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    There was a viral post from Twitter or linkedin years ago of someone posting saying they wanted to hire someone with “10 years of experience using ruby”, a person replied, was told they didn’t meet the requirements, they said something like “look at my profile” …if you looked at the person’s profile they were the creator of ruby, they literally wrote the language. The language was only 7 years old.

    I don’t even remember if it was ruby but the story is basically the same. Impossible requirements written by people who don’t even know what they need.

    Also fun fact Tim berners Lee used the job title “web developer”. He is THE web developer… He write http and html. He literally created the world wide web. Yet he only claims “web developer”.


  • Fun fact, I had used that joke before on an actual fda auditor who was not my preferred gender and about 20 years older than me, during an audit of a medical device manufacturer facility. (it got a small chuckle but that’s it).

    Yes I have history. Everyone does. I’m sure you have stories. Maybe about siblings? Friends? It’s not all about romance. What was your 15 year old birthday like? Did you have a party? Did you get any presents? Which was your favorite?

    Not trying to hit on you or anything(I’m probably way too old for you and barely know you) . But emphasizing that you have a history and a story. So does everyone on the street. Expressing these stories are a major way of having a connection with other people.

    Do you want to make friends? Romantic partners? Not with me but in general. These apply to all people. Listen to their stories. Tell your stories. Share your experiences. Listen to their experiences. Sharing experiences is how we connect with eachother on an emotional level.