• mathemachristian [he/him]
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    19 days ago

    /s Yes they lied about Iraq but Iran is an authoritarian state that should be toppled. Two things can be true at once you know.
    clown-to-clown-communicationclown-to-clown-conversation

  • QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml
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    20 days ago

    Typical imperial core chauvinism. They know their governments are evil but still cling hard to the idea that they're the best therefore every non western aligned country must be even more evil.

    • Spectre@lemmy.ml
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      19 days ago

      "If my country is evil while calling itself the leader of the free world, other countries must be super evil"

  • Mrkawfee@feddit.uk
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    18 days ago

    No, no, no you dont understand. This time the humanitarian concerns of neocons is real and definitely not a pretext for regime change.

  • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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    18 days ago

    it's almost the same script of Syria too lol

    btw, in case people insist the US is not involved at all. This is US Secretary of Treasury, Scott Bessent, bragging about the success of the deliberate economic pressure put on by the US on Iran. Play from minute 29:17.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TieI8GBcwTo

  • gecko@lemmy.ml
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    20 days ago

    can you post the latest Time Magazine cover and point out its pushing war propaganda again ? thank you

    • QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml
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      20 days ago

      There's a few to choose from. Like the war started in 2022. Ukraine doesn't have a nazi problem. Euromaidan didn't have any western interference. Zelensky doesn't have Epstein ties.

        • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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          19 days ago

          This one is practically 200% proved that wasn't the case so liberals behave like "I never said that"

          • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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            19 days ago

            They really have no shame, Biden straight up said they would destroy the pipeline if Russia ever did anything and so they did but media tried to spin it as if Russia did it 😅 that should be eye opening to anyone but americans have the memory span of a mosquito.

    • mathemachristian [he/him]
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      19 days ago

      The invasion was completely unprompted and nothing happened in the years immediately preceding it.

  • CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml
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    19 days ago

    The thing I think is that Iran is indeed an authoritarian theocratic regime and killed 3000 people confirmed by themselves, but so is Israel. The problem is the ipocricy in the judgement of a nation that should before look at it self and get that it's not better than others. But we all know this

    • orc girly@lemmy.ml
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      19 days ago

      Most of those were civilians and security forces (2427 out of 3117). The other numbers floating around seem completely made up by NGOs and western media so it's hard to know if there are more dead rioters.

        • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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          19 days ago

          How many western regime change operations that inevitably create magnitudes more casualties is too many? Because that's the "solution" that's being talked about, not some actual people's government

        • Riverside@reddthat.com
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          19 days ago

          I agree, that's why we all should condemn the western sanctions that made the local currency collapse and led people to starvation and violence

        • orc girly@lemmy.ml
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          19 days ago

          I'm not sure I understand the question, if you mean whether I trust any numbers the answer is no, but the government numbers are a good minimum estimate.

          If the question is whether I support the Iranian government uncritically, the answer is also no, but based on past history it's still an extremely stupid idea to support an intervention.

          I believe Iranians deserve a break from the illegal sanctions that keep them struggling, once they can breathe they'll decide in their own terms if they wanna reform or overthrow their government or whatever else.

  • SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 days ago

    I was speaking to a Nicaraguan co-worker a few days ago about the current situation in Nicaragua and the general geopolitical situation in Latin America as whole. She seems to be in her 50s so I ask about her memories regarding the Contras and Sandinistas. I shit you not, she actually spoke positively about the Contras; she said if the Contras were around today, Nicaragua wouldn't be in the situation that it is today. She goes on to say that her dad was falsely accused of being a member of the Contras.

    While I understand that the situation with her dad may have traumatized her, it is mind-boggling that she praised the U.S.-funded death squads.

  • Astrius@lemmy.ml
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    18 days ago

    I believe Iran is going through a new worker-led revolution and that the current theocratic regime is certainly gunning down protesters and the US is scared of what’ll happen if the workers rise to power so they want regime change instead.

    • orc girly@lemmy.ml
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      18 days ago

      Show

      It started with a currency crash (which is most likely a result of US manipulation). That failed, because the Iranian government didn't immediately oppress business owners whose demands (not to sell at a loss) were found to be reasonable.

      Then at least four different groups (including monarchists and Kurdish separatists) started killing civilians, police forces, setting mosques on fire, and so on (there's footage for all of this, if you have the stomach to watch it).

      The Iranian government responded to that by shutting down the internet, and with force. When they shut down the internet the riots more or less stopped, which signals that the operations were conducted from abroad, the obvious candidates being the US and Israel.

      Furthermore, there have been millions of Iranians rallying in support of their government all over their country, which makes sense as foreign led violence can only push you closer to your government.

      You can't have a workers revolution without an organized vanguard and class consciousness. This is just old school terrorism by reactionary groups supporting a regime change to install a US puppet, like we've seen time and time again.

      I make no moral judgement on the government's action, I'm just recounting the timeline of events.