Ah yes, the literal embodiment of “announcing the new OpenTormentNexus!”.

I’d go order at the other place!

– Frost

As would I! :3

– Ylfingr

But also more generally, the whole attitude of “you’re just a Luddite who’s HOLDING US BACK!!” that people do. See also systemd.

(I don’t like systemd for completely different reasons (political rather than technical) but the very similar “you just need to get with the times!!!” attitude is also a massive turnoff for basically the same reason.)

(Also see also Rust. Ditto.)

By contrast, Pipewire? Legitimate improvement. It’s not just a “change bad” thing. There’s a reason Wayland/systemd/rust are controversial and Pipewire isn’t. A lot of it is the attitude, I think. People aren’t forcing Pipewire, either, and on the app side most stuff seems to still be the Pulseaudio API which is completely fine and means you can use either.

Hah, yeah, you probably don’t have a CRT monitor!

Having custom resolution support is INCREDIBLY important for them, because they have no native resolution and you can just throw pretty much anything at them and it looks fantastic. It’s great for getting high refresh rates in games, especially since decreasing the resolution means you don’t have to work as hard for that framerate, without the nastiness of upscaling.

And also our monitor reports 1280x1024 as the highest resolution. Which… is the wrong aspect ratio. ??? So we NEED custom resolutions to even have a usable monitor.

KDE finally came out with support for this… in a version that’s not in Debian yet… like, one major release before dropping X11 support completely. And pretty much every other desktop on the planet is just out in the cold (except for all the window managers that base off of wlroots or something, I think it has an equivalent). Gnome? Good fucking luck.

Oh and screenshot tools. Those are tied to the DE now! Want to use a competing screenshot tool? You just… uh… can’t. I mean we’re on KDE and Spectacle is pretty great so it doesn’t really affect us, but if we didn’t like Spectacle, we’d be more or less screwed under Wayland.

Also scaling the screen. I don’t mean widget toolkit scaling. I mean e.g. integer scaling the screen pixels from 1920x1080 to 4K, a simple 2x2 for 4K TVs, or what-have-you. (Because 4K TVs don’t do this themselves even though they really should.) Or going the other way, rendering at 1280x960 and then downscaling to 640x480 so our CRT can get 120Hz. Easy on X11. Straight-up impossible on Wayland.

Oh yeah, and did I mention temporarily (not as default) disabling our PS4 controller’s trackpad from working as a mouse, without disabling any other trackpad on the system, without disabling its ability to work as a button or whatever in Steam Input? That too.

Stuff like that.

Very, very similar, yes. It can be annoying!

We’ve got our browser set to use a monospace font for everything, everywhere, including all websites. It’s awesome for seeing if you’ve accidentally typed two spaces. Not so great for checking to make sure you’re using the right kind of dash!

– Frost

(also Lemmy, because it’s annoying, is going to turn my double - here into an en/em dash (not 100% sure which). In this case, I DO in fact mean a double -, dangit.)

I don’t think anything defaulting to Wayland is guaranteed trash, but I also think there should be way more X11 pitchfork people. Or at least less hatred directed at them when they pop up.

“just get with the times it’s THE FUTURE and you’re not allowed to say no!” is… not cool. Especially when Wayland is unusable for anything outside of “the ordinary”, by design.

– Frost

It’d be really nice if it was like Wii, where you can have the emulated console do an online system update and bang, there’s your whole OS… or failing that, the entire system is on every game disc, just in case… but nooo can’t have that.

Distros that don’t have SELinux generally have AppArmor, which is similar, and has the advantage that it doesn’t have quite such a boneheaded design getting in the way all the time. :3 So I wouldn’t pick a distro just to get SELinux, personally!

(I don’t like how SELinux sticks labels on individual files, except those labels are apparently pointless, because there’s a tool specifically to go through your whole filesystem and reset all the labels if they get screwed up. Which can happen (e.g. if you mount a home directory that doesn’t have the labels of every single file in it set to “this is a home file”, because you moved it from a Debian install where that isn’t a thing).)

– Frost

Ehh… es geht uns nicht sehr gut. Wir haben viel Stress.

Aber wir leben.

– Frost

We use nginx for that! It can proxy TCP/UDP in general. You can also have it be your TLS endpoint and then pass stuff back to the backend over plain HTTP, if you trust your VPS, but you don’t have to.

nginx can preserve the source IP with its “proxy_protocol” feature, somewhat (might only work for HTTPS; with proxy_protocol, nginx on server A will then set the appropriate header with the IP it gets from server B). Or if you decrypt on the VPS, it can set the appropriate header for you before sending it back to server A.

I’ve got a guide on how we have ours set up: https://frost.brightfur.net/blog/selfhosting-with-a-bounce-vps-part-1/

– Frost

Oooh lovely!! We’re uh, pre-12.5 I think.

A DVD won’t work, right, it’s gotta be a bluray? Because if we can do this with a DVD-R and not need another reader, that’d be great.

Shoot, apparently it’s not open source. That’s not confidence-inspiring… but then again PS3 CFWs weren’t either (*sighs*)

Does that apply to PS4s running 11.something? I can’t remember what OS version our PS4 is on, but it’s new enough that a jailbreak only came out pretty recently. Needed a specific game disc to work.

Oooh awesome. I figured normal burned discs wouldn’t work.

We don’t have a bluray burner (only a CD/DVD drive) but have been kinda wanting to get one.

Wait, you can get jailbreak discs from aliexpress? That might be worth looking into…

(although, how do we know if it’s got malware on it?)

The UI is just way, way, WAY less obnoxious.

I do wish it had the niche communities though. Stuff for individual games, etc.

– Frost

And honestly, in the coming age of “OSes that don’t spy on you will be illegal!!”, I’m really, really glad for that. We’ve got the entire 27-ISO set of Debian 13.0.0 squirreled away. There’s even more discs for the sources, and they go to great lengths to ensure that everything can be built with no external dependencies that aren’t available in the archive.

Debian: It’s Apocalypse-Proof.™

– Frost

Haha yeah! :3 I uh, misread the critter I replied to as saying “I don’t get it” rather than “I’m not even interested in getting it”. Cue the massive infodump. >,,>

I’m not that sorry, though. It’s still fun to talk about and also kinda hilarious that it happened.

– Frost

Debian is weird in even having non-live ISOs, but they do have various live ones with different desktops! (Don’t grab the one from the homepage, grab one of the live ones instead.)

Yeah! https://www.debian.org/CD/live/, the little teeny “live KDE” link. =^.^=

You don’t want the “netinst” ISO on the main page. It technically works, but it’s a pain to use and needs internet access to install. Its only redeeming quality is the small download size and fitting on a CD (if you’re burning it to a CD-R which is unlikely).

Magnetic strips, technically all cards still have them as a backup, but 99.9% of readers accept all three and NFC tap or chip is usually the go-to!

The train station ticket machines where we reload our transit card only take swipes, though. So it is still a thing in very rare places.

When we first got our “food stamps” card (it apparently used to be physical stamps?? but that was long before our time. now you get basically a debit card that can only be used on food), it was also swipe-only. But then a year or two ago they replaced it with one that has a chip and can even do NFC! Nifty.

Cheques, nah, I think you still CAN get a physical paycheck, maybe?, if for some reason you wanted to?, but basically everyone does direct deposit these days

…at least, people who have bank accounts

that’s one reason to get a check. So yeah, those are still a thing, but not common. There are probably-sketchy “check cashing” places in low-income areas that you can take checks to instead of a bank if you don’t have a bank, I don’t know how that works.

Taxes – YEP. 100% still a thing. Fuck TurboTax & co., they pretty much bribed the government to keep this system because it makes them lots of money (because they can sell you “tax prep software” that does your taxes for you and is absurdly expensive and oh! you gotta buy a new one every year because of minor changes to the tax codes!).

– Frost