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Cake day: July 11th, 2023

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  • First, I can, but since you don’t want me to, I won’t. Second, it’s not a strawman, it’s your own analogy and it doesn’t work because it’s based on a false assumption. Using a found key to enter a house unauthorized is breaking in the same way that using a found password to enter an account unauthorized is hacking. The analogy works against your case, not for it.

    Now stop distracting from the administration in the divided states of middle northern america protecting child rapists including their head of state.

    This is the wildest accusation. I’m not the one deconstructing narratives around the emails to put my own spin on them. I’m the one using established terminology to properly understand the context of the story. You on the other hand, are claiming that Epstein’s emails weren’t hacked, which makes it conveniently easy to dismiss the story as spreading misinformation. I don’t believe this is your intention, but you should be honest, if anyone is distracting from anything here, it’s you. If that’s not what you are doing, then it’s not what I am doing either.

    It sounds like you know you are wrong and just want to score a cheap point against me. I didn’t say anything rude or mean to you and have given you absolutely no reason to accuse me of that. Just relax. We’re all friends here.





  • I’m not the one twisting language here.

    Let’s try not to take things personally here. I’m not twisting words, and I’m not claiming that you are either. I’m pretty confident the equivocation is an honest mistake.

    We don’t disagree on the definition of a domesticated species here. We don’t disagree about whether cats are domesticated or not. The original comment by gmtom said, “graph would be better if feral cats were separated from pet cats. As the vast majority of predation comes from those feral cats.” Note that the categories we are discussing here are feral cats and pet cats, not feral cats and domestic cats.

    You respond by saying, “The reason they are the same group is that feral cats result from domestic cats, if there were not domestic cats, we would not have feral cats. They are not wild, native cats.” The categories here have changed to feral cats and domestic cats when the original comment was about feral cats and pet cats.

    You can conclude from this line of reasoning that separating the graph into the categories of feral cats and domesticated cats is inappropriate, but you cannot use this line of reasoning to conclude that it is inappropriate to separate the graph into the categories of feral cats and pet cats.

    Using this argument to suggest that it is inappropriate to separate the graph into the categories of feral cats and pet cats is to equivocate two distinct usages of the term domestic. One usage means “a member of a domesticated species” and the other usage means “pet” or something like “non-feral domesticated.” These are clearly distinct usages. In one case, the categories overlap, while they are mutually exclusive in the other.

    Feel free to hit me with sources on this. If they aren’t feral they are wild.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_cat

    I’ve got another resource on domestication to.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestication_of_the_cat

    We don’t disagree on the facts here, so no number of sources could resolve this discussion one way or another.