• Naomikho@monyet.cc
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    3 years ago

    Iโ€™m quite enjoying the sugarless candies I have in my drawer at the office.

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    Not how it works though. It might alleviate pain and improve your perception of your well-being, but it wonโ€™t heal you

    • qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works
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      Nope, the placebo effect can have physical effects and be genuinely curative. The level to which this is the case is highly variable from patient to patient, but it is inaccurate to say that is limited to improving sensation and perception of illness. Not to mention, in many cases the malady being treated is one of perception, for example, in pain management. And alleviating pain in itself has downstream positive effects on disease progression and patient QOL.

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        Actual chronic pain sufferer here. If I had a dollar every time placebo and positive thinking was prescribed to me, I would have enough to maybe hire a doctor who wonโ€™t systemically downplay or dismiss my pain because of my age and gender.

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        I think heโ€™s saying that although itโ€™s a treatment, it is not a cure.

        It seems to me you are actually agreeing with him.

        • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
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          The thing here is that some medicine doesnโ€™t really heal either. Paracetamol is just a pain suppressant, and ibuprofen partially suppresses it while accelerating blood flow and thus reducing inflammation, which is why itโ€™s used for sore throat, to avoid more friction and let the throat heal by itself.

          Aleviating pain is sometimes what your body needs to start focusing on healing itself. Itโ€™s not a miracle but it works when it does.

          Say8ng that placebo effect doesnโ€™t heal you isnโ€™t really that revealing, plenty medicine doesnโ€™t either and thatโ€™s okay, thatโ€™s not their objective.

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            Youโ€™re right, those thing are treatments, not cures.

            Itโ€™s nice that we all agree.

      • Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social
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        My random conjure if anyone cares:
        I see it like many โ€˜realโ€™ medicines that alleviate symptoms. Sometimes the symptoms are the ones causing the issues, EX. a fever to kill germs can kill braincells. But like any medicine that alleviates symptoms, it can also hide problems. So I see it as a case by case thing.

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          3 years ago

          Iโ€™m going to trust multiple peer-reviewed medical studies over a youtube talk with under 600 views.

          Specially when itโ€™s on a channel branding itself as being skeptical towards science.


          EDIT: On a closer look itโ€™s straight up just one of those conspiracy theory channels and organizations that present itself as actual science.

          And hereโ€™s a study if someone wants to look at actual science regarding the placebo effect:

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6013051/

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            QED is actually the opposite of a conspiracy theory channel or organisation. Theyโ€™re very pro science and critical thinking, and spend a lot of time debunking conspiracy theories and pseudo-science.

            Iโ€™ve got no skin in the debate in this thread, I didnโ€™t watch the actual video and have no opinion on the validity of what you or the other posters are saying, Iโ€™m just pointing out that I think that youโ€™re wrong to dismiss the channel as a source, even if you disagree with the claims made in that specific video.

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            on a channel branding itself as being skeptical towards science.

            You may have misread - its description says it is a โ€œscience and skepticism eventโ€. Not skeptical of science.

            Iโ€™m with you, otherwise.

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            I hope you do, because no good peer-reviewed studies ever produced the results you are talking about. I urge you to show me which ones you are talking about.
            And you should learn to look closer. Maybe get more that a couple of words out of headline, you know, how scientificly minded people are suppose to be.

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              You are literally spouting out of your ass. There are multiple peer reviewed papers which show how the body can regenerate itself through placebo effect.

              Itโ€™s real and verified just like grass. Go touch some. You are way out of your depth here.

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                Then show me. I donโ€™t want to derail you, so show me the best one you think of and letโ€™s analyze it.

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                  Go ahead and scroll up and see the studies already provided to you. You are a colossal waste of time.

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        Semantics, I guess, but it says โ€œdiseaseโ€ in the meme, does that really constitute a disease?