Sure, four years ago. We’re now in the late-middle stages.
Jesus Christ, that’s a lot of transphobia in the comments.
Are…
Are the majority against trans people? Or are tankies just being tankies again?
r/stupidpol, it’s kinda their reason d’etre. That said active trans affirmation is still a minority opinion in the general population, the average Joe thinks of trans people as somewhere between a stranger type of gay and a normaller type of lunatic.
Joe thinks they aren’t really doing anyone any harm, but he’s not ready to spend any effort defending them politically. If the TV keeps telling him the wokeratii is coming for his kids, he’ll at least consider listening.
There is some hope, homosexuality was in much the same play 35 years ago, the phobes lost then.
So is it called Stupid Pol because they’re acting like idiots. Please tell me they’re just acting, but only if it’s true.
“Stupidpol” is a portmantau of “Stupid” and “Identity politics”. The idea is that r/stupidpol critising “wokeness” from a leftwing perspective. They are not ironic.
Transphobia and other bigotries are officially banned, but whenever you make a space specifically for “VAR but not woke” dodgy comment sections are kinda inevitable and VAR, whatever VAR is, is less of a focus.
That certainly explains it.
Both the active transphobia and why there is another stupid pol post that tries to say that the movie Sinners is racist against white people.
Personally , I think that attacking woke from a left wing perspective is complete foolishness. How the hell are you going to be a progressive but disagree with the concept of civil rights?
I wish I’d stayed away from those comments.
Right? Between this and facebroach, I’m like “Does the average person actually HATE Transpeople?”
They don’t think they do, but we make them feel icky and that’s enough to turn off the empathy of the average person.
Nobody left on Reddit is a decent human being. This is like asking why there are so many ants around an ant hill.
I would not say Stupidpol is necessarily transphobic but skeptical of a lot of gender identity related stuff because of liberals. They also don’t like that people treat the whole subject as a sacred cow.
So they’re transphobic.
The discussion begins and ends at “Transwomen are women”
No, nothing is ever that simple in life. Most of them have the average person’s view of someone who is trans…
They think it is strange and are skeptical, that is not the same as hatred or malice. And to be fair to them, liberals kinda messed up the average person’s perception of trans people. That doesn’t excuse hate but it does excuse ignorance and skepticism.
liberals kinda messed up the average person’s perception of trans people
How?
By doing too much and also not portraying them as normal people who just want to chill and have families just like anyone else
Define “Doing too much”
Sorry it took so long to get back to you I have been working a lot this week.
But here is what I mean by liberals doing too much:
You can believe trans people deserve equal rights while also believing liberals made strategic and rhetorical mistakes especially by collapsing complex medical, legal, and social questions into moral absolutes. That approach didn’t persuade skeptics, it hardened them, and it arguably set the movement back.
Another mistake liberals made was failing to consistently depict trans people as ordinary members of society. Basically, people who want stable relationships, families, careers, and a low-drama life like anyone else.
Media and activist spaces tend to amplify the loudest, most transgressive, or most online voices, which created a distorted public image that doesn’t reflect the majority of trans people.
That skewed portrayal made it easier for opponents to frame trans people as alien or extreme, when in reality most just want to live quietly and be left alone.
Some liberal approaches also struggled because they lacked clear, institutionally workable policy frameworks, which made implementation inconsistent and easy to attack.
This is how I believe that liberals fumbled the whole situation.
