

Oatley. “We can’t call it milk”


Oatley. “We can’t call it milk”


I (poorly) made this and used it once already today - I feel like it could work here as well:

Shout out to Brightworks and Drongo on Youtube for their BAR coverage. It’s a great game. I just wish RTS wasn’t so toxic.


We call that Linux here and you can start winning today!


Microsoft steeply lowered expectations on the AI Sales team, though they have denied this since they got pummelled in their quarterly and there’s been a lot of news about how investors are not happy with all the circular AI investments pumping those stocks. When the bubble pops (and all signs point to that), investors will flee. You’ll see consolidation, buy-outs, hell maybe even some bullshit bailouts, but ultimately it has to be a sustainable model and that means it will cost developers or they will be pummeled with ads (probably both).
A Majority of CEOs are saying their AI spend has not paid off. Those are the primary customers, not your average joe. MIT reports 95% generative AI failure rate at companies. Altman still hasn’t turned a profit. There are Serious power build-out problems for new AI centers (let alone the chips needed). It’s an overheated reactionary market. It’s the Dot Com bubble all over again.
There will be some more spending to make sure a good chunk of CEOs “add value” (FOMO) and then a critical juncture where AI spending contracts sharply when they continue to see no returns, accelerated if the US economy goes tits up. Then the domino’s fall.


We’ve done the latter since WWII, just not generally in allied countries.
Edit: ooof - just now seeing the “always has been” emoji. I’m owning it… whatever.
4GB? An embarassment of riches in today’s market!


I, for one, am triggered.
Totally get using others if something isn’t working. I’ve been known to (gasp) throw on another distro to get past a problem until a new kernel release or bug fix comes in, but it’s the rarity now. I gotta be honest that I’m surprised it was Debian which solved a corner case for your gaming table. Maybe it was a monitor issue or weird (old) hardware?
Good call on the final pass with Windows. With Steam, you really can’t miss on hardly any game these days unless it’s bloated with DRM, but who am I to speak - I have XBox that can actively spy on me for those DRMed games… Carry on.
That’s crazy talk right there. After decades of who knows how many Linux distros, SunOS/Solaris, HPUX, AIX (and a splash of FreeBSD), the proper answer is this:
Non-Linux
Not gatekeeping - just having a bit of fun. You do you, but I found it crazy supporting so many distros after all these years. At some point you go for “works great out of the box with minimal tinkering” that covers like 99% of use cases and frees up your time. That being said I’m sure I have a system or two around here still running Ubuntu or Debian or whatever that I just can’t be arsed to change.


I just heard $7000 for the cheap seats?


’m no expert computerologist, but I think that any system that requires anybody but you to have your key is insecure.
Computerologist here. You are 100% correct. If anyone says otherwise, they are selling you something.


I doubt this goes anywhere other than “virtue” signaling to his puppets that he’s stronk-man big tough! IANAL, but discovery works both ways. He would have to pony up ALL KINDS of juicy corruption transactions, etc. as soon as JPMorgan claims they closed it over money laundering and fraud. Not to mention that JPMorgan has DEEEEP pockets to fight it. I expect either a very quiet and quick settlement where they just cave to get on his good side or they go balls deep and he withdraws. My money is on the latter. TACO.
LinkedIn has entered the chat.


I’m not exactly standing behind it - just saying what I’ve read. I’m confident nuclear plants are after 9/11. Anything else is probably hit or miss, including petro/gas pipelines, coal, and generating plants specifically. Plus if a bad actor (likely state sanctioned) decides to, they can get through air gaps with spies/traitors/unwitting idiots with a simple USB drive. After air gapped uranium processing centrifuges were wrecked with an errant USB drive, I would expect all systems to disable or remove USB drive connectivity, but I’m sure that’s inconsistent… at best.


I can only speak for the US, but our electric grids and production are supposed to be air gapped for critical infrastructure. Healthcare? I doubt it based on the continuous leaks there - and medical supply chains are tightly integrated with internet/cloud… Shopping still has a fairly sizeable local accessibility for staple items, certainly food distro where the internet wouldn’t matter for at least a short while, but it’s also tightly integrated for Supply Chain Management, much like Health care - so there could be a run on it.
I’m not sure on public transport, but most are goverment led, so probably air gapped.
There’s also a shitton of dark fiber laying about. Internet infrastructure COULD be brought back up depending on the damage that triggered outages in the first place.


OK and no worries - try not to let your frustration turn into hostility with likely allies and potential converts. BTW, I realize that I do the same when I’m ultra passionate about something and think I’m 100% right so I am aware and struggle at times to retain positivity. It’s like a full time job! LOL
I still disagree about the relevancy as clearly outlined in our chat, but I absolutely recognize your perspective (you’re largely correct) and the need to push into mobile being paramount. I hope my points about leveraging desktop, gaming, and QoL improvement wins we already have are able to temper your frustration by influencing from another view. I think we largely want the same things here - I guess I’m just cautioning that we should use every lever we have to build FOSS’s future even if the “now” is already mobile. Certainly when someone reaches out to this fine community asking a “why” question, giving us all an opportunity to be welcoming and educating. All the best, lemmy friend.


I don’t understand the hostility, nor the downvotes to my original point. You’re going sideways a bit trying to deliver your message to a captive and mostly agreable audience where I was attempting to answer OP’s question asking for insider information about why all the servers and supercomputers run Linux and pivot into adoption and advocation for Linxu in general.
I agree that we need to embrace FOSS on mobile. I’d LOVE to have a viable Linux-distro phone that actuall works. I spend money and effort in this space, already. The vast majority of the world gets connecitivity via mobile devices. I know that and probably most in this community do too. My original point (heavily downvoted in a linux sub of all things) is that Linux IS READY and can WIN the desktop. That’s it… that’s all. Yet it seems you’ve taken umbrage that I didn’t agree with you 100%. In fact, we could really just consider linux on mobile as a smaller desktop with more input constraints and a smaller screen + need to utilize mobile radios properly (this is typically the hard part to open source). And I agreed with most of your statement, correcting on one point that implied Linux was only suitable for Servers. Which is a bit ironic because to win mobile it HAS to win on the desktop. Steam and stable / high UX distros have made this actually viable in the last 2-3 years where Windows users can migrate with the lightest of disruption and capability yet get all the resiliency, security and privacy.
You’re not winning anyone over with the attitude. I don’t get the edgelord response like I personally affronted you for having a nuanced interpretation. Geninuinely asking - what makes you think attacking me with your italicized ad hominim is working, especially when it’s the hottest of takes? Are you getting out your anger on someone? Makes you feel like you’re “winning” a comment thread on a tiny internet forum? Who hurt you, man! :-) In all seriousness, in the real world, we’d likely be chattering on about this over a beer, so I truly don’t get it.
Happy to continue the conversation, in the hope we can find common ground. Not everyone’s an idiot because they don’t agree with you 100% or see things from another angle. In fact, I’d like to discuss this:
Outside of offices, computing now means Android and almost nothing else If you’re going strictly by number of mobile devices I buy it. If you’re going by actual dollars spent, arguably the most important metric for investors, I’m going to say the disparity is narrowed by gamers alone, even if mobile wins by sheer volume x cheap devices. Mobile currently drives investment by selling personal data and microtransaction games mostly, so there’s anti-incentive to even ALLOW linux-based mobile devices on networks outside of Wi-Fi. So I see mobile as a near term hope and goal and desktop / gaming as an already winning, which just needs people to spread the good word. Plus people who run Linux on their laptops are much much more likely to consider it on their phone if it “just works” and covers 95% of their use cases and comes bundled with not selling or leaking their personal data for the same price.


Mobile is not all that counts. I don’t know anyone without at least one laptop or desktop in the house (typically more) and gamers alone contribute more billions of $$ to entertainment than sports and movies combined. There’s hundreds of millions of normal people who are still using MicroSlop Windows which has turned into a surveilance nightmare almost as bad as mobile platforms simply because it’s the lowest effort/barrier to entry (pre-installed).
I absolutely want to concentrate energy on FOSS on mobile - with you there, but Steam Proton has made gaming so simple on Linux and the last 10 years of quality of life OS/Kernel improvements means FOSS can already compete on “desktop” and win. I"m saying don’t dismiss it because if you can prove to people they can have a bulletproof and seemless experience for FREE without having to pay subscriptions and get privacy in the deal, they are more apt to consider a Linux phone (assuming it works).
P.S. I should also mention that most everything we improve or build for desktop Linux can be used on mobile (within mobile plat limitations). Win hearts and minds where you can - Linux isn’t just for servers.
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