Finger on the monkey’s paw curls
Too little delay on the automated back and forth.
Clueless middle management dork sees (imagines) amazing, promotion-grade results - huzzah, obviously I was right all along!
Things get weirder, and worse.
(eh, the sardonic joke I read was: ya stopped short of deleting Windows)
Fuckin lol. Lotta these old greedy pricks starting to converge, in visage and thought, on - “well, there has to be a first lich, after all, so…”
They utterly trashed their OS, a globally ~dominant cash cow, at an astonishing pace. By completely, eagerly (forcibly!) jumping the gun on exciting new tech, maybe the single above-all “thing you never do with anything even like a cash cow of any shape or size”.
As in, that is known - viscerally, below the level of words or even thought, as if that knowledge originates from another realm - by anyone who has ever actually been directly responsible for any valuable piece of technology.
The depth of ignorance and really just flat-out juvenile naivety (fueled by naked greed) that produced this is something I’ll probably be thinking about for the rest of my life. Truly amazing, just historically, I mean mythically foolish.
This dude has been locked into this outcome for a long time, and it’s getting increasingly obvious how disastrous it is.
There are no dances left for him to perform except “it’s really not that bad!”
I completely agree and appreciate sincerely that they released this. It’s unfortunate, the way the obviously nonsense claims made by the industry at large - “LLMs are AI and can do everything!” - have polluted a lot of devs’ ability or willingness to see the tools for what they are, and maybe official acknowledgements like these can help.
It also seems likely to me that the major players know a lot of negative truths about all this stuff, you’re probably right about hiring observations. I don’t follow any of their marketing really so I have to admit I’m even just assuming that releasing this is out of character.
If I’m being honest, I’m mostly just on the edge of my seat waiting for the hype bubble to burst, lol, and curious about how it’ll unfold. Probably just kind of hoping this marks a step toward that.
Interesting read and feels intuitively plausible. Also matches my growing personal sense that people are using these things wildly differently and having completely different outcomes as a result. Some other random disconnected thoughts:
I’m surprised they’re publishing this, it seems to me like a pretty stark condemnation of the technology. Like what are the benefits they anticipate that made them decide this should be published, vs. quietly kept aside “pending further research”? Obviously people knowing how to use the tools better is good for longevity, but that’s just not what our idiotic investment cycles prioritize.
I’m no scientist or expert in experimental design, but this seems like way too few people for the level of detail they’re bringing to the conclusions they’re drawing. That plus the way it all just feels intuitively plausible has a very “just so” feeling to the interpretation rather than true exploration. I mean, cmon - the behavioral buckets they are talking about range from 2-7 people apiece, most commonly just 4 individuals. “Four junior engineers behaved kinda like this and had that average outcome” MIGHT reflect a broader pattern but it sure doesn’t feel compelling or scientific.
Nonetheless I selfishly enjoyed having my own vague subconscious observations validated lol, would like to see more of this (and anything else that seems to work against the crazy bubble being inflated).
After listening to some of the Behind the Bastards on Thiel’s Antichrist obsession, his names for things are more understandable. Not by being sensible, by his demonstrated tendency to read things and take interpretations from them that make no sense to anyone else.
So yeah I’m sure he’s got some nutso bananas reinterpretation of what a Palantir is, etc.
He seems unwell, truly.
Neither this nor the comment you’re replying to help at all with providing v3.10 in particular. Unrelated.
(Just pointing it out for anyone later trying to solve it themselves)
If you’ve already got Docker available, testcontainers is awesome!!
I like little SQLite in-memory DBs for testing sometimes but just accepted the annoying friction of a slightly different SQL dialect (typically use PG). Testcontainers was a “have my cake and eat it too” situation, really like it.
Mind sharing any more details, like which model (or models and which to avoid), and what kind of front end technologies you’re involving?
I’d like to start doing what you’re describing for simple front ends on my own personal projects. I’ll need to learn front end properly someday I suppose, but not today lol.
That’s fair and certainly a real phenomena, no argument there. I’ve prolly been guilty of it myself lol
I’ve always been disturbed by the descriptions of his inability to enjoy humor and music. Those are like core to humanity, in my estimation.
I’ve known at least one legitimate dangerous psychopath, knew him quite well. He had a rich (if dark) sense of humor and legitimately interesting, opinionated taste in music. And he was the kind of person it was unsafe to be near if he was merely bored (to say nothing of angry/frustrated or worse), and you were sufficiently weaker and isolated (I never was, to be clear). He also was barely literate and mischaracterized by lots of people as profoundly unintelligent.
I’ve known other interesting individuals damaged in different unrecoverable ways, and everyone I’ve known (that remains able to interact even somewhat smoothly with others at least) has those core human pieces intact.
Trump is truly a bizarre human being, and not in one single way I can call positive. I wonder if there are others in history who were notably “deaf” to the emotional meanings of music and humor (minds structurally incapable of empathy, I’m guessing) yet still adept at social interactions and even possessing a strange almost bewitching quality among the general populace.
Even cult leaders, known for that latter quality and also lack of empathy, they tend to understand music and humor and even use them for effect in their abuses. Trump alllllmost gets there with humor, but not quite, to him it seems like just a way of attacking people that is somehow more publicly tolerated, he doesn’t ever seem to find it funny himself - just another weapon/tool to use. Weird fuckin brain on this guy (very weirdly damaged/malformed, I suspect).
It’s so much, I can only imagine. Was in DC recently and you can see his name just boldly prepended to stuff that looks way older lol, sticks out like exactly the absurdist, garish, self-evidently temporary sore thumb that it is.
I haven’t gotten the sense any of his kids have anything like the weird Trump charisma the fucker does have, so even if the country doesn’t magically get better when he’s gone, it’s just hard to see anyone taking seriously the idea that any of the renamings and such will last even 10 years.
Exception for if he gets (foolishly) martyred and they can turn his name into some weird gross symbol for a longer term hatefest.
I mean you may not realize it but if you’ve been routinely using it for that long, at this point you pretty likely have well-established workarounds for the annoying bits that barely register for you as workarounds or annoying by now.
Not too different from the phenomenon where the average subject matter expert over time grows unable to relate to or communicate effectively with people having substantially less expertise. Just cuz so much foundational stuff (lacked by novices) is just implicitly baked in, to the point it becomes invisible - water to the proverbial fish or whatever.
Ah, the ever-elusive, mysterious stage in my process - the one I can’t ever seem to move much before the “planning” and at least “beginning to implement” stages, and sometimes stubbornly comes even later than that.
I think I agree with you, and I also think you probably know better than me, but - Python couldn’t become what Python became without doing this exact thing very deliberately, bordering on obnoxious at times. Fundamentals or “initial state” define the characteristic strengths and weaknesses for a language, but what to add and what not to, as well as “why” and “how”, over time determine the true shape and user experience (lacking a better word there) of a language.
Despite its reputation, in my view Python has always been far more opinionated about how to do things than most give it credit for.
Dotnet professionally and using lemmy.ml socially is hilarious to me and (sincerely) entirely consistent. Makes perfect sense, I just find it funny. (I’m not being sarcastic or attacking you, might not be clear lol)
Well, now, that’s useful, but we shouldn’t fail to mention good ol HCl, muriatic acid colloquially for this purpose, also great for cleaning oil stains from a driveway!
Happens a lot - my (quite small) shop was using NestJS for backends and my boss is way more experienced and wise than me. I unintentionally caused us to switch over to Python, which probably sounds as silly as JS to many, but - we deliver dope shit, on time and on budget 🤷♂️
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