‘Silly’: Former. Dem Senator Chides His Party's Refusal to Endorse the NYC Mayoral Candidate
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Major leaders in the Democratic party – including House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, and NY Governor Kathy Hochul – have still refused to endorse Democratic nominee for New York Mayor, Zohran Mamdani, despite him winning the primary fair and square.
In this ‘Mehdi Unfiltered’ interview, Mehdi presses Doug Jones, a former Democratic senator from Alabama, on the matter. Jones admits, “If you were a Democratic leader, it's hard to not endorse a Democratic nominee.”
“The mayor of New York's got a whole bunch of folks that he's got to deal with in order to get New York where he wants it to be,” Jones explains. “And that's going to take some ability to compromise. If he [Mamdani] does that, he can be successful. So let's give him the benefit of the doubt.”
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Tell me about it!
I mean, really - who are the Establishment Dems? Anyone in the DNC? Anyone who's a Democrat? What's been Established?
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Well I knew the DNC and the DNCC but not the DLC. Because they don't exist anymore, still - TIL!
So anyone formerly in the DLC and their children, I guess.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2011/02/the-end-of-the-dlc-era-049041
Interesting.
I mean, that’s 14 years ago, or 17 since Obama said No, but it’s not “become the party”. We still see examples - Pelosi preventing AOC from chairing Oversight for example - but even those are notable as exceptions.
There absolutely is an argument to be made that middle-class voters (such as they may be) can flip between parties. I disagree 100% with the centrist bullshit of the deceased DLC, but it’s still a question any political progressive will have to reckon with.
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What's DLC?
Anyone taking bribes (from billionaires or otherwise) should be a given, right? Is it that all "Establishment Democrats" take bribes from billionaires? So there could be a national elected Democrat who is not an "Establishment Democrat"? And if taking bribes from billionaires was the qualification, wouldn't that make trump an "Establishment Dem"?
When I think of "Establishment Democrats" I think about long-term federal officeholders like Schumer, but also Schiff and King (who is technically an Independent). They're "Establishment" because they're at the higher levels of office in the country. I could also see Cuomo being called "Establishment Democrat" because he's in a huge city and has outsized sway, but that's kind of different, hence my question.
Ability to compromise, or willingness to accept bribes? If your platform is people first, which his seems to be, who would the compromise be with, exactly?
Other . . people?
I think it is likely that the implied compromises would be made with the capital class, not the working class. That's the distinction I was aiming for and deriding. In keeping with that line of thought: if corporations are people, then I suppose yes, other people.
I'm sure he'll find there's compromises to be made at any level. Sure, capital class which - for a mayor I guess - would be the high-dollar contractors and consultants the city pays, but also the neighborhood groups and the food service groups and so on. You can piss off some of them but not all the time, and you can't piss off all of them any time.
I have no issue with that take, and I agree with you there.
I may have an unfairly uncharitable view, but that's not what I believe he meant. If he did, I would withdraw my smarm.
Fuck compromise. That's not what the people want.
The party of "no matter who and no matter what they do" now wants the left and ONLY the left to "compromise" with them.
We've seen what they call "compromise" from when they "compromise" with republicans. They want capitulation and nothing else.
Do you work with other people?
It involves compromise, doesn't it. Why would more people make that different?
If you don't compromise you have to overcome with sheer numbers. Do you think "the people" are going to rise up and do what it takes to not compromise? I'd like to think so, but I also know that's not going to happen.
So yes, compromise is going to be part of it. That's how the world works. There have been a LOT of people who have tested that theory, and it always goes one way. Either compromise or make up the difference with big numbers.
Democrats should start compromising with their left instead of capitulating to republicans and demanding that the left be happy with their "compromise."
So an "Establishment Dem" supports Mamdani and y'all are mad about it?